172 reg not found - DODGY?????

[Vish]

Can't HPI a ph2 172 as the reg says nothing. The most any car history check is that its a Renault and its grey. Some are saying Renault saloon The guy showed me some car report for the car and said its all clear but I can't remember the company name so not sure if its a fake or not.

Even my insurance company doesn't recognise the reg.

MX53 OOV if anyone wanted to know. It had a cs sticker on the window too.

Could this mean its an import or something dodgy?

 

[theduck]

dvla seem to be able to find it

http://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/Ev...portletns=VehicleEnquiry_en&wfevent=link.next

 

[maxedcup172hl1986]

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[Vish]

Thanks mate, knew there was somewhere else I could check, but couldnt for the life of me remember where.

So would that be enough proof that the car is legit?

It's got MOTs and V5 with the car, and tax would need that with insurance anyway wouldn't it...

 

[theduck]

not enough by itself but a good sign.

 

[lemonnobby]

I think its an import one

 

[Vish]

So would you personally walk away from it?

The car is very good condition with only some stone chips on the front, and drove excellently. Waiting to see a copy of invoice for cambelt change. Was sold up until now.

Really wanted it HPI'd for my peace of mind. Bit bazarre it not coming up on insurance. That good gut feeling has suddenely disappeared.

 

[Vish]

I think its an import one

Do you say that because that would explain why it isn't coming up? It had alarm and locking wheel nuts which I guess could be added but can the alarm be added into the renault key fob?

 

[theduck]

tbh there are a lot about at the moment so i probably would walk away

 

[Moz168]

I think it means it not taxed. Ive tried to get a quote on a car and it couldnt find the car, phoned the garage up and they said it was because it was declared SORN.

 

[lemonnobby]

Should come up anyway i think mate. was it found just not by the insurance company? I have an 02 plate for sale if interested, and yes its possible to get a cobra alarm fitted they just plug and play with the key fob

 

[Craig]

I think its an import one

Do you say that because that would explain why it isn't coming up? It had alarm and locking wheel nuts which I guess could be added but can the alarm be added into the renault key fob?

yeah the alarm can work with the standard 172 key. my old 172 had an aftermarket alarm beacause it was an import

 

[Vish]

I think it means it not taxed. Ive tried to get a quote on a car and it couldnt find the car, phoned the garage up and they said it was because it was declared SORN.

But according to the tax disc link above, it has tax until 29th Feb 2009.

Which is the same as what the tax disc said.

 

[Peperami]

tbh there are a lot about at the moment so i probably would walk away

+1

 

[Vish]

tbh there are a lot about at the moment so i probably would walk away

tbh there are a lot about at the moment so i probably would walk away

+1

Think I will. Bit gutted as the bodywork was the best I've seen for a 5yr old car and it felt the best 172 I've test driven.

Do you say that because that would explain why it isn't coming up? It had alarm and locking wheel nuts which I guess could be added but can the alarm be added into the renault key fob?

yeah the alarm can work with the standard 172 key. my old 172 had an aftermarket alarm beacause it was an import

Oh right, didn't know that. Thought it was standard because I didn't need to point the fob at the interior like I do for the central locking on my ph1 clio. Unless all ph2 fobs are like this.

Should come up anyway i think mate. was it found just not by the insurance company? I have an 02 plate for sale if interested, and yes its possible to get a cobra alarm fitted they just plug and play with the key fob

Yeah saw you car mate, but you're a bit far from me and I'm not really a fan of black cars. Can the key fob can be pointed anywhere for the cobra to work?

 

[Jamesstone]

There are soooooo many around mate, better to wait for one that feels right, that gut feeling is there for a reason lol, we wont think any less of you if you come to braknell/shires in the non sport :rasp:



James

 

[lemonnobby]

No probs mate yea PH2 keys you can point anywhere

 

[maverick1984]

cars that have a X as the second letter of the reg are imports. ie gX, lX etc.

 

[lemonnobby]

Not always mine is FP

 

[Vish]

No probs mate yea PH2 keys you can point anywhere

Cheers mate.

There are soooooo many around mate, better to wait for one that feels right, that gut feeling is there for a reason lol, we wont think any less of you if you come to braknell/shires in the non sport :rasp:



James

LOL!

I was thinking on my drive home after the viewing, I might end up with it before the meet, was getting a bit excited. I'm genuinely confused now. After seeing it my gut was saying go for it, now I'm thinking, is there a big reason why its not showing up anywhere???

I dunno what to do, but at least I'd know I'd never buy anything if I had a single doubt.

If I pop into the local police station, will they be able to confirm the car's identity for me? Like they do when they pull people over etc.

Could be a possibility that the car was on a private plate before? But V5 didn't look new at all. :S

 

[benmore]

mine is dx, but is not an import. lock nuts, alarm, etched windows, etc?

surely can't be?

 

[benmore]

also my insurance couldn't find my reg, but hpi etc did np..

 

[lemonnobby]

It could have been regisated with a private plate on yes. it says its grey on that DVLA site

 

[Vish]

cars that have a X as the second letter of the reg are imports. ie gX, lX etc.

Not according to this mate

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/inf104.pdf

The X is just there like any other letter.

also my insurance couldn't find my reg, but hpi etc did np..

Would have thought HPI would have for the one I saw, if it did, I wouldn't be worried about it, but it doesn't

 

[Vish]

It could have been regisated with a private plate on yes. it says its grey on that DVLA site

Tis a thought, but unless it was changed very recently, it should come up on HPI, insurance, etc shouldn't it?

But thinking back, don't think the V5 wasn't in new-ish condition.

 

[benmore]

the website for the authorities allows mot history check, tax check, etc. tried askmid.com? just to see if it comes up as anything? altho not the most accurate site, that is the insurance db at least.

bare in mind my mothers escort lx 1.6 comes up as an escort estate. but it does come up as a ford escort at least lol

update** MX53OOV is NOT on the Motor Insurance Database today

but doesn't mean alot I suppose. sorry matey pretty useless suggestion tbqfh from me.

just confirms it isn't insured.

mine comes up like so: assuming you want this back from somewhere:

DX52T** is on the Motor Insurance Database today


The details on the MID are:

Vehicle Make/Model:RENAULT CLIO RENAULTSPORT 172 16V

only other thing I can suggest is maybe text hpi.. then try hpi.co.uk which I where mine come back clear..

 

[lemonnobby]

Yea but how many owners?

 

[Vish]

Benmore, the car doesn't come up but its trade, was part exchanged today I was told. So previous owner would have switched his insurance to his new car, and trader prob hasn't added it to his policy yet.

When I put my current car in, its says its on the database but no info about model etc.

Lemonnobby1, the car has had a total of 3 previous owners so far, the last guy bought it in 2005.

 

[willow]

Date of Liability 01 03 2009
Date of First Registration 23 09 2003
Year of Manufacture 2003
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1998CC
CO2 Emissions 194g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour GREY
Vehicle Type Approval M1
This vehicle can be licensed at a DVLA Local Office without the V5C Registration Certificate The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry. Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle 6 Months Rate £115.50 12 Months Rate £210.00


its not an import i dont think but what does vehicle approval M1 mean??

 

[benmore]

to be fair, if the vin plates match, you take a mechanic or good friend who knows a thing or two about cars to ensure it's not damaged underneath or a cut and shut, they have the loggy etc, everything is great.. maybe it's ok...

maybe the police can confirm it's not stolen

or get an aa inspection...? they check right?

 

[willow]

Date of Liability 01 03 2009
Date of First Registration 23 09 2003
Year of Manufacture 2003
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1998CC
CO2 Emissions 194g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour GREY
Vehicle Type Approval M1
This vehicle can be licensed at a DVLA Local Office without the V5C Registration Certificate The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry. Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle 6 Months Rate £115.50 12 Months Rate £210.00


its not an import i dont think but what does vehicle approval M1 mean??

if i do this for my car also it comes up with NULL in the vehicle type approval part as so with all my old cars ive checked?

 

[benmore]

Date of Liability 01 03 2009
Date of First Registration 23 09 2003
Year of Manufacture 2003
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1998CC
CO2 Emissions 194g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour GREY
Vehicle Type Approval M1
This vehicle can be licensed at a DVLA Local Office without the V5C Registration Certificate The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry. Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle 6 Months Rate £115.50 12 Months Rate £210.00


its not an import i dont think but what does vehicle approval M1 mean??

if i do this for my car also it comes up with NULL in the vehicle type approval part as so with all my old cars ive checked?

Vehicle Type Approval M1 - says this for mine too .. so all good i assume? :rasp:

 

[willow]

no idea? haha dont even know what it means lol

 

[willow]

you tax is like 14quid more than mine for 6months hahaha

 

[steve101]

My car was originally registered XBZ or something (from N.I). When I phone my insurance up I need to tell them exactly what it is. My V5 simply says Renault Hatch back and engine size. The dealer we got it from did not register it on it's new GB plate properly.

 

[Clgale88]

Girlfriends brothers is on an x HX thats not an import

 

[Vish]

I believe M1 means Multi-stage EC type-approval according to

http://www.ake.fi/AKE_EN/Type_Approval/

My parents cars come up null and my neighbours cars come up M1, only thing I can detect is that my parents cars were pre-march 2001, whereas my neighbours' were just after.

to be fair, if the vin plates match, you take a mechanic or good friend who knows a thing or two about cars to ensure it's not damaged underneath or a cut and shut, they have the loggy etc, everything is great.. maybe it's ok...

maybe the police can confirm it's not stolen

or get an aa inspection...? they check right?

Looking into the aa inspection now. Think I'll try the local station for info as well, no idea what they'll know tho tbh. Vin sticker matched vin number on V5 and service book.

My car was originally registered XBZ or something (from N.I). When I phone my insurance up I need to tell them exactly what it is. My V5 simply says Renault Hatch back and engine size. The dealer we got it from did not register it on it's new GB plate properly.

Ahh right, so a c**k up in the re-registering could be the prob. Cheers mate, will try and find out if it's been re-registered at all.

you tax is like 14quid more than mine for 6months hahaha

Tis the difference atm between if registered pre-march 2001 and post-march 2001 due to emissions rather than engine size.

 

[maverick1984]

when i rang renault about having some work done she said that its an import (jersey/ireland i think)
when i asked how she new that, she said because the second letter is a X.
Was the first i knew.

 

[CrippsCorner]

I musta done 15+ reg checks for insurance on cars on autotrader and it can't find em... always thought that a bit weird.

 

[lemonnobby]

Im going with the private plate at first reg or an import. dont forget the V5 wouldnt like new anyway if it had 3 owners but it was only a private plate for the first owner