172 with 182 manifold better flow/performance?

[Richinnes]

Hi there dose anyone know if the 182 manifold gives better flow/ performance than the standard ph2 172 manifold?

 

[Djw John]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?678965-182-manifold

 

[Jonny Waugh]

People on here say very slightly but its meant to be a nightmare to do, iirc I think you have to take the front end of the car to bits possibly even lower the subframe or something in order to fit it, I think someone said it can take 4-5 hours and you will be lucky to gain 2-3 bhp, don't hold me to this I'm no expert just what I remember reading, the only thing I'm sure of is the gains arnt good because I was going to do it my self and chose not to as I didn't think it was worth it m8

 

[Richinnes]

Cheers djw John, mixed response there feeling 50/50 on that

 

[Richinnes]

Cheers jonny think that's made my mind up on that, defo be giving that a miss lol my mechanic would hate me making him spend 4-5 hours just to change a manifold. Iv heard a couple of people say they got quite noticeable gains from doing it, but a lot of the time I take no notice as they also say there achieving nearly 200 BHP on a n/a engine lol. Cheers for the heads up bud

 

[Jonny Waugh]

Like I said m8 don't hold me to it but I'm sure its quite a big job because the labour cost to fit it is what put me off doing the mod as I'm not good enough or confident enough to do it my self, infact my 182 mani has been lying in my passage for 3-4 months now lol if mine breaks then ill do it but that's the only way I would do it

 

[clio ph1 Belgium]

I did it on the drive gravel . NO PAIN NO GAME is the story:rasp:

 

[Jonny Waugh]

Cool m8 if your good enough to do the work by yourself but I'm about as mechanical as a penguin and my garage wanted £££ to do it so I gave it a miss

 

[Andyman]

Its not just about the gains. Any cat messing or changing the gasket and spring kit suddenly becomes a doddle with the 182

 

[levaz]

Only doing mine as i got 1 cheap and need to drop the subframe to replace the sump anyways

 

[clio ph1 Belgium]

I did it with lowering the rear of the subrame , just fit it ! You already got it. Just do it on a ramp , it's more fun this way. If your not confident get a manual . And the subframe bolts in the chasis always will spin nuts . Take your time .

 

[Richinnes]

Stop it guys your talking me back into it at the same time lol..

 

[Jonny Waugh]

If you can do it your self than I would to be honest m8 like I said the only reason I didn't is because my local garage wanted daft money to do it

 

[Richinnes]

Yer I'm thinking I can use the body shop ramp to do it.. Dose anyone no if the 182 manifold fits the 172 decat pipe (2.5") or do u need to change that as well ?

 

[Jonny Waugh]

NA you need 182 decat as well m8, different fit from mani to decat

 

[Richinnes]

Sweet, cheers for ur help bud

 

[Jonny Waugh]

Forgot to say though not to worry there pritty cheap only around the 40-50 quid mark new

 

[levaz]

You need a link pipe, the 182 decat is too long

 

[Jonny Waugh]

Levas will be right on that one m8, he's done it I haven't lol I just new the fitting was different

 

[levaz]

I ordered mine from k-tec with a fitting kit, i think the pipe is about £100 with club discount

http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=2333&appid=2

 

[Richinnes]

Cheers bud, that was going to be my next question where do u get the link pipe. Cheers Rich

 

[levaz]

Just added link on my last post

 

[Richinnes]

Cheers Levas appreciate it

 

[levaz]

No worries, its something ive spent the last couple of weeks fighting with, so if what ive learnt helps others along the way, great!

i also heat wrapped my manifold while it was out, dont know how much difference it will make, but figured its alot easier than trying it afterwards!