172cup vs 206 gti 180

[Gally]

Man that Gally is special.

gally

 

[coatesy]

the cup weight is 1010kg the gti180 is more like 1200kg them seats and all the gadgets and 17inch alloys it gets make it heavy.
the gti180 aint gutless after 4k revs though as what ive read peak power isnt until 7k right on the redline.
cup will win couple car lengths

 

[CrippsCorner]

180 = 0-60 in 7.2secs
Cup = 0-60 in 7.0secs? (or slightly less as i have only stats for FF here)

Close... but the Cup should have it imo

 

[gaz44]

6.8 according to Renault, 6.5 according to Evo. 0-60 means sod all. 0-100 is a better indicator imo.

It will be close in a straight line but it would be easy to c**k up. Everyone knows what car is better fun!

 

[Blarno]

Which has more torque?

 

[gaz44]

Both same I think. Circa 150 lbs/ft

 

[Blarno]

Cup should edge it then. Torque is where it's at.

 

[Heliosphan]

I think we all know the Cup is the quicker car.

According to EVO it was 0.3secs quicker to 60mph which bascially means if you drive the car to it's potential you should win. But also, expect to lose if you fluff things even slightly.

 

[TooneySonic]

Had a run in with one once in my old decat 172 ff, from 80mph to 130, absolutely nothing in it

 

[gaz44]

Had a run in with one once in my old decat 172 ff, from 80mph to 130, absolutely nothing in it

FF - says it all really! :rasp:

 

[TooneySonic]

haha funny but my 172 was running fast, it was a match for a friend remapped cup so

 

[gaz44]

haha funny but my 172 was running fast, it was a match for a friend remapped cup so

Did he remap it slower?

Just kidding! There ain't much difference.

 

[Andyman]

Lad i know had a 180, reckoned it was terrible on the fuel.

On the plus side it saved his and 2 mates lives after crashing into a woodland area at claimed silly speeds.

 

[Westy26]

Which has more torque?

I think its a matter of where is the torque in the rev range?

Tyres, weight, and start are all important... coming from a citroen / pug and with the clio being lighter id say clio woudl edge it off the line, however its a dam good line up. The pug is a good car.

 

[182chick]

I had one of these Peugeot 206 GTI-180s (and Ive had a Full Fat Clio 182). I got the 180, after the Ford Racing Puma.... and for a bit of a joke, I called my mate up with a Phase 2 172, and we had a test.

Identical. Simple as. Nothing in it. Mid range is identical, from 20mph to 70mph.

All this nonense about 0-60 make me laugh out loud. Manufacturers perform countless 0-60 tests, break components along the way, and get an average figure. Its very rare that you'll get that same figure on the roads.

And regards "fun factor". I found the 206 GTI-180 to be equally as fun, as the lift off oversteer was so abundent and often. The Clios are very neutral in comparison, where as the 206 would aid turn-in so well, with its feathery rear-end. But we all know how superb the Clios are, with regards turn-in.

Mind you, that car is long gone sold, and I forget I even had it sometimes.... I broke the gear-selector in it aswell, after only 1 week. LOL. Clio took a beating, and nothing broke on it from new.

 

[RobHardyUK]

Actually I beg to disagree, as the 180s are known for understeer.

There wouldnt b a lot in a straight line race, i reckon the clio would edge it. Doesnt anyone know the quarter mile times for the gti-180s?

0-60s are a bit vague tbh.

 

[gaz44]

I had one of these Peugeot 206 GTI-180s (and Ive had a Full Fat Clio 182). I got the 180, after the Ford Racing Puma.... and for a bit of a joke, I called my mate up with a Phase 2 172, and we had a test.

Identical. Simple as. Nothing in it. Mid range is identical, from 20mph to 70mph.

All this nonense about 0-60 make me laugh out loud. Manufacturers perform countless 0-60 tests, break components along the way, and get an average figure. Its very rare that you'll get that same figure on the roads.

And regards "fun factor". I found the 206 GTI-180 to be equally as fun, as the lift off oversteer was so abundent and often. The Clios are very neutral in comparison, where as the 206 would aid turn-in so well, with its feathery rear-end. But we all know how superb the Clios are, with regards turn-in.

Mind you, that car is long gone sold, and I forget I even had it sometimes.... I broke the gear-selector in it aswell, after only 1 week. LOL. Clio took a beating, and nothing broke on it from new.

We're talking Cup here though, and that is slightly quicker and handles better. The fact that the 180 is never mentioned in hot hatch talk says enough.

 

[182chick]

I love these sweeping statements. Ive had both, and both are great cars. You all talk as if the 172 Cup is in a league of its own, from all the Clios. There's nothing in any of them, lets be real here.

 

[Reyes]

without reading the posts.. lmao

 

[B16DOE]

o please tel him to race a 16v

 

[gaz44]

I love these sweeping statements. Ive had both, and both are great cars. You all talk as if the 172 Cup is in a league of its own, from all the Clios. There's nothing in any of them, lets be real here.

How ever small the margin is, it still counts. The Cup has the advantage.

 

[182chick]

True....technically.

Both good cars, I wouldn't mind another Clio again.

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

I love these sweeping statements. Ive had both, and both are great cars. You all talk as if the 172 Cup is in a league of its own, from all the Clios. There's nothing in any of them, lets be real here.

Nail... Head...

Head.. Nail...

Have you two met?

Agree definately with regards to the road. Fair enough on a track where a second might aswell be a minute. But on the road, you'll have to have big differences to notice usually.

 

[gaz44]

I love these sweeping statements. Ive had both, and both are great cars. You all talk as if the 172 Cup is in a league of its own, from all the Clios. There's nothing in any of them, lets be real here.

Nail... Head...

Head.. Nail...

Have you two met?

Agree definately with regards to the road. Fair enough on a track where a second might aswell be a minute. But on the road, you'll have to have big differences to notice usually.

Indeed.

 

[realnumber 1]

Nail... Head...

Head.. Nail...

Have you two met?

Agree definately with regards to the road. Fair enough on a track where a second might aswell be a minute. But on the road, you'll have to have big differences to notice usually.

Indeed.

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