172ff and cup drive shaft's, same length?

[midge]

im going to 172 track my mk1, ive read before that the cup has a wider track to a FF is this true? are they the same length ? and are the hubs the same?

 

[Andyrg@ ClioTurbo]

the cups track is wider the wheels are a different off set too do this

 

[sideways danny]

4 different shafts

Only ones i've found to be interchangeable is 182 with cup pack, and 172 cup, and even then they're different as the cup doesn't have a center bearing

 

[Fred@BTM]

the cups track is wider the wheels are a different off set too do this

common misconception fella, front track is 20mm wider and rear is 10mm wider, so unless they used different wheels front to back, the offset isn't the only factor at play

 

[midge]

so the shafts are 10mm longer ?

 

[Fred@BTM]

i'll have check tomorrow for you, i've never bothered to measure TBH!

 

[sideways danny]

so the shafts are 10mm longer ?

more to it than that IIRC, bearings are different width on the 182 too

TBH, the only shafts you'd be able to use on a mk1 would be ph1 172, or 172 cup, and i think cup would be too long

 

[fearless]

I'm sure Foxy went through all this and measured loads when he converted his mk1 and found very little difference.

As stated here http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=467766

 

[sideways danny]

I'm sure Foxy went through all this and measured loads when he converted his mk1 and found very little difference.

As stated here http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=467766

no offence to foxy, but he does tend to s**t out driveshafts and gearboxes. I've had it in my mind that he's not using the right length shafts for a while