182 6-Speed

[Darknight]

Since the 197 came with a 6-speed gearbox would it be possible to convert a 182 to 6-speed??

 

[Steve2004]

Can do, but it'll cost mega £££ because I think the 197 gearbox is too big to fit properly?


Could be completely wrong though!

 

[Dan@SJM]

but the 197's ratio's are shorter than the 182's lol

 

[psycho]

but the 197's ratio's are shorter than the 182's lol

Would that be good though? Surely the increase in acceleration would be cool.

 

[Dan@SJM]

pointless, they still have the same top end, just extra gear changes to get there!

 

[psycho]

pointless, they still have the same top end, just extra gear changes to get there!

Well its not pointless. I mean i only use 3 out of 5 gears on the track (ok, i just touch 4th on the straight) so it would be cool to have some extra punch out of the corners with a lower gear ratio.

 

[BenR]

Different bellhousing pattern, block, mounts.........not a chance without major surgery.

 

[psycho]

Different bellhousing pattern, block, mounts.........not a chance without major surgery.

Just out of curiosity, are there any direct replacement gearboxes with lower ratios?

 

[BenR]

If you have money, yes.

 

[Peperami]

Sadev sequential

 

[Fred@BTM]

we can convert the original JC5 5speed box to a 6speed unit unsing the original housing etc etc

not cheap though!

 

[Tom]

we can convert the original JC5 5speed box to a 6speed unit unsing the original housing etc etc

not cheap though!

Really?

Thats pretty cool, can you keep some of the ratios from the jc5?

 

[Fred@BTM]

yep! i'll send you some pictures on msn later tonight

 

[Tony Hunter]

Sadev sequential

Thats the one

 

[Tony Hunter]

we can convert the original JC5 5speed box to a 6speed unit unsing the original housing etc etc

not cheap though!

How much Fred? ball park figure

 

[Fred@BTM]

over £3K (but includes a "proper job" diff)

 

[Tom]

yep! i'll send you some pictures on msn later tonight

nice one, i have a spare box

 

[Tony Hunter]

over £3K (but includes a "proper job" diff)

Not to bad considering

 

[BenR]

over £3K (but includes a "proper job" diff)

wow, calm down on the technicalities!

 

[Fred@BTM]

i learn't that of yoz lol!!! when a customer asks you to explain something, just tell them its a "praaaaaaaper jaaaarb" (in an irish acent)

 

[psycho]

So is this the sort of mod thats just not worth it or is it just not very popular cause you dont get high numbers to brag about?

Its just that ive tried a hill climb course in my 182Cup and the gears were waaaay too long for that so it would be interesting to see what it would be like with a close box. Not that I have nearly enough cash to spend on it at the moment hehe

 

[Mike_182]

Way too much a waste of money.

What would be interesting is a 6th gear ON TOP of the current 5th, as I think the engine would do so much better at cruising if it wasn't forced to rev so high at 'normal' motorway cruising speeds.

 

[Englebert]

Agreed! Would of loved an overdrive 6th.

 

[Tom]

You can change 5th with relative ease.

 

[Mike_182]

Agreed! Would of loved an overdrive 6th.

Nice gentle 80mph at 2500rpm, I've got every belief the car could sustain it...

 

[mark.k@GDI]

if ur 182 is too taller geared get a 172 cup box! shorter than ur standard one although on certain ones the speedo drive can be differant so best check before u buy!

 

[Steve2004]

if ur 182 is too taller geared get a 172 cup box! shorter than ur standard one although on certain ones the speedo drive can be differant so best check before u buy!

Didn't think the cup boxes were any different to any phase 2 172?

 

[Tony Hunter]

i learn't that of yoz lol!!! when a customer asks you to explain something, just tell them its a "praaaaaaaper jaaaarb" (in an irish acent)

Like it

 

[Tom]

if ur 182 is too taller geared get a 172 cup box! shorter than ur standard one although on certain ones the speedo drive can be differant so best check before u buy!

Didn't think the cup boxes were any different to any phase 2 172?

they arent.

 

[MATT BLACK]

You could do it....

All you need is a PK6 012, an adapter plate, an hydraulic clutch slave clinder, 2 CV joints ( inner that mate up to the PK6 box ) some high pressure pipe and a clutch pedal that has a master cylinder attached.

Bolt the plate onto the block, make a template of the gearbox bellhousing, drill the nescessary holes - bolt it on ( make sure the main drive from the box aligns and fits into the flywheel on the F4R lump. Use the 172 clutch.

Fabricate a bracket for the clutch pedal / master cylinder bolt it up and then attach the pipework going to the hydraulic slave cylinder. Make a reservoir and bleed the system up.

Then cut the ends of your 172 shafts ( inner sections ) measure, balance and attach them to the CV joints that slot into the PK6 box. Some PK6 boxes have speedo drives and some dont ( ABS models ) so if your car is a cup or a full fat you can be sorted either way.

 

[Fred@BTM]

yes, but matt the PK6 box is HUGE, its not going to fit in the engine bay!

 

[MATT BLACK]

Yes it is - cut the chassis leg out like i did with mine

The 6 speed i had in my clio was huge and i had to cut a small section of the leg out to make it fit - you know what im on about, you saw it

 

[MATT BLACK]

And before you ask im still trying to get a loom 4 u

 

[Fred@BTM]

the ND0 box was touching the chassis leg when i put it in my car, you'd have to cut the chassis leg off completley to fit a PK6!!!

 

[MATT BLACK]

ha ha - what do you think i did ?....shave a couple o mil off the leg with some emery cloth ?

 

[Fred@BTM]

and you wondered why your car didn't go in a straight line!

 

[MATT BLACK]

As you can see the PK6 isnt that much bigger than the JC5

 

[Fred@BTM]

no go measure the width gay boy!

 

[MATT BLACK]

and you wondered why your car didn't go in a straight line!

It was built for straight lines baby !!

 

[Fred@BTM]

thats an ND0