182 Horrible Noises....

[alex.qts]

Fitted a decat to my 182 last night due to my cat breaking up. Ended up taking it for a rather spirited hour-long drive with everything getting very hot. Noticed alternator light flashed a few times at the redline - has happened before so was not worried.

All of a sudden the car started to make this horrible loud grinding / rubber / slightly metallic sound. Almost sounded like something like a rubber belt was breaking apart in the gearbox / engine area. Very similar to a flat tyre sound. Instantly pulled over and noticed that the noise stopped whilst out of gear and not moving. The noise only happens when moving in gear. Accompanied by a burning oil/rubber smell under the bonnet.

After cooling down the noise seems to be gone for the moment but I am left with a really loud whine now in all gears - depressing the clutch and the noise goes away.

Really confused about what this could be. Has anyone had anything like this before? Thanks

 

[alex.qts]

Update: So I went for a short drive and I think the gearbox or slave cylinder / release bearing has blown up. Something went pop, lots of metallic rattling and pissing oil everywhere out near the bell housing. It certainly isn't engine oil and has a strange smell. Is gearbox oil clear?

 

[Advikaz]

Update: So I went for a short drive and I think the gearbox or slave cylinder / release bearing has blown up. Something went pop, lots of metallic rattling and pissing oil everywhere out near the bell housing. It certainly isn't engine oil and has a strange smell. Is gearbox oil clear?

Box oil stinks.

Get under and see where it’s coming from and post a pic.

My diff s**t the bed last year and punched a hole near the crown wheel.

 

[Yarp]

I lost a bearing on one of the shafts and that punched a hole in the box that I thought was the diff exploding.

It whined like mad for about a mile then went pop. Very terminal.

 

[Advikaz]

I lost a bearing on one of the shafts and that punched a hole in the box that I thought was the diff exploding.

It whined like mad for about a mile then went pop. Very terminal.

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Basically the same place mine went. I guess common area if anything gets trapped between the case and the crownwheel

 

[alex.qts]

Tried looking underneath and from the top but I can’t see anything without lifting it. The oil is all over the bottom of the gearbox.

Clutch pedal still feels firm so can’t see it being hydraulic fluid and it smells so bad…

Is the diff separate or inside the gearbox?

Anyone know what gearbox mine would be, and any good sources of rerurbed units?

 

[Gus Fring]

Tried looking underneath and from the top but I can’t see anything without lifting it. The oil is all over the bottom of the gearbox.

Clutch pedal still feels firm so can’t see it being hydraulic fluid and it smells so bad…

Is the diff separate or inside the gearbox?

Anyone know what gearbox mine would be, and any good sources of rerurbed units?

If it was just a leak I’d say a seal but coupled with the noises you’re hearing it could potentially be the shaft.

The diff is inside the gearbox and the unit for a 182 is JC5-089, there’s a few on ebay.

 

[Brigsy]

Clutch is cable so wont be that. Sounds like box has expired sadly.

 

[Mr Underhill]

the unit for a 182 is JC5-089, there’s a few on ebay.

182 uses a JC5-130 gearbox as standard but I’m aware of an exchange unit - JC5S89 - which was available from Renault. Is this what you’re referring to?

The 172 used JC5-129 or JC5-089, which had a speedo drive. The “JC5S89” could be a service part - a remanufactured JC5-130 - or a related JC5 variant that’s compatible but not necessarily standard for the 182.

 

[Mr Trailer Man]

If it was just a leak I’d say a seal but coupled with the noises you’re hearing it could potentially be the shaft.

The diff is inside the gearbox and the unit for a 182 is JC5-089, there’s a few on ebay.

089 is a ph1 172 box.

130 is a 182 box.

 

[Advikaz]

@NorthloopCup


Another customer

 

[Yarp]

182 uses a JC5-130 gearbox as standard but I’m aware of an exchange unit - JC5S89 - which was available from Renault. Is this what you’re referring to?

The 172 used JC5-129 or JC5-089, which had a speedo drive. The “JC5S89” could be a service part - a remanufactured JC5-130 - or a related JC5 variant that’s compatible but not necessarily standard for the 182.

Correct indeed. Mine in the 182 is was a 130

 

[NorthloopCup]

Sounds more likely that the clutch has failed and eaten the gearbox bellhousing - that’s made a hole and allowing oil to leak.

 

[SharpyClio]

Probably a bit far away but I’ve got a 182 box that I’ve just taken out of mine, it need a new seal as it was leaking into the bell housing but it’ll be an ideal box for @NorthloopCup to work his magic and refresh it.

 

[alex.qts]

Thanks for the replies. It's never a good day when this stuff happens! The clutch was only replaced around 1500-2000 miles ago. The clutch still feels OK and does drive, very badly up until I parked it up. I was thinking either the clutch has broken up or one of the drive shaft seals has failed? I could hear this rubber kind of sound when it first went.

I have some decisions to make. Originally I bought the car as a bit of fun but I have become so attached to it and enjoy driving it so much. Wondering if now would be a good time to take the whole lot out and go to town.

Mine is a cup so presume the gearbox is the same as a regular 182? Not sure if I should source a refurbed / second hand unit or see if mine is rebuildable?

How easy is the gearbox to take out - it comes out through the wheel arch after dropping the subframe doesn't it?

 

[Advikaz]

Thanks for the replies. It's never a good day when this stuff happens! The clutch was only replaced around 1500-2000 miles ago. The clutch still feels OK and does drive, very badly up until I parked it up. I was thinking either the clutch has broken up or one of the drive shaft seals has failed? I could hear this rubber kind of sound when it first went.

I have some decisions to make. Originally I bought the car as a bit of fun but I have become so attached to it and enjoy driving it so much. Wondering if now would be a good time to take the whole lot out and go to town.

Mine is a cup so presume the gearbox is the same as a regular 182? Not sure if I should source a refurbed / second hand unit or see if mine is rebuildable?

How easy is the gearbox to take out - it comes out through the wheel arch after dropping the subframe doesn't it?

See my thread for penetration levels and inspiration.

 

[NorthloopCup]

Thanks for the replies. It's never a good day when this stuff happens! The clutch was only replaced around 1500-2000 miles ago. The clutch still feels OK and does drive, very badly up until I parked it up. I was thinking either the clutch has broken up or one of the drive shaft seals has failed? I could hear this rubber kind of sound when it first went.

I have some decisions to make. Originally I bought the car as a bit of fun but I have become so attached to it and enjoy driving it so much. Wondering if now would be a good time to take the whole lot out and go to town.

Mine is a cup so presume the gearbox is the same as a regular 182? Not sure if I should source a refurbed / second hand unit or see if mine is rebuildable?

How easy is the gearbox to take out - it comes out through the wheel arch after dropping the subframe doesn't it?

Anything is rebuildable pretty much, you’ve just got to have the resources available to do that kind of work. Jc5 130 was fitted in all 182’s as well.

 

[Advikaz]

Mine when it s**t the bed.

 

[Advikaz]

And @NorthloopCup did me this little puppy:

‘Bonnie Blue’ The RB 182

Cage ordered from JP cages. Gone for white..

cliosport.net

 

[alex.qts]

@NorthloopCup Do you still rebuild these if I can get the box over to you? If so perhaps I could PM you?

 

[NorthloopCup]

@NorthloopCup Do you still rebuild these if I can get the box over to you? If so perhaps I could PM you?

Yeah drop me a pm mate as I still rebuild them 👍🏻

 

[Darren S]

@NorthloopCup Do you still rebuild these if I can get the box over to you? If so perhaps I could PM you?

Definitely in safe hands if Mark rebuilds it for you.

 

[alex.qts]

Picked up a gearbox from @NorthloopCup at the weekend. @SharpyClio kindly sold to me. Big thanks to both.

Still deciding if I am going to take it all apart and get some other stuff done at the same time.

 

[alex.qts]

Just been looking at the genuine Renault clutch that I have and noticed something a bit strange - the part number that I have 7701478115 listed the Clio 182 from the place I got it from, but upon further inspection the commonly stated part number is 7701476557!

When studying photos the 2 kits look almost completely identical, I can only spot a small rivet in one of the bolt holes missing in this kit, but I am assuming something must be different with the pressure plate strength?

Looks like 7701476557 / 7701478115 got amalgamated into the one for the aftermarket as the part numbers are interchangeable when looking. Perhaps that is why the aftermarket Valeo / Luk clutches are of lesser quality?

After what has happened above I really don't want to screw around this time, can anyone confirm if this clutch kit is indeed different?

Many thanks...

 

[Mr Underhill]

Just been looking at the genuine Renault clutch that I have and noticed something a bit strange - the part number that I have 7701478115 listed the Clio 182 from the place I got it from, but upon further inspection the commonly stated part number is 7701476557!

When studying photos the 2 kits look almost completely identical, I can only spot a small rivet in one of the bolt holes missing in this kit, but I am assuming something must be different with the pressure plate strength?

Looks like 7701476557 / 7701478115 got amalgamated into the one for the aftermarket as the part numbers are interchangeable when looking. Perhaps that is why the aftermarket Valeo / Luk clutches are of lesser quality?

After what has happened above I really don't want to screw around this time, can anyone confirm if this clutch kit is indeed different?

Many thanks...

7701476557 was listed as a clutch kit, which included the plate and cover.

8220317815 was just for the plate and sold separately from the cover - 8200417854

7701478115 was also part of a kit but isn’t listed for a 182, but several parts websites seem to think it’s fits a 182. Probably ties in with your theory.

7701476557 was the correct one for my 2005 182 FF CB22.

 

[NorthloopCup]

Picked up a gearbox from @NorthloopCup at the weekend. @SharpyClio kindly sold to me. Big thanks to both.

Still deciding if I am going to take it all apart and get some other stuff done at the same time.

You’re very welcome mate. Nice to meet you as well 👍🏻

 

[NorthloopCup]

Just been looking at the genuine Renault clutch that I have and noticed something a bit strange - the part number that I have 7701478115 listed the Clio 182 from the place I got it from, but upon further inspection the commonly stated part number is 7701476557!

When studying photos the 2 kits look almost completely identical, I can only spot a small rivet in one of the bolt holes missing in this kit, but I am assuming something must be different with the pressure plate strength?

Looks like 7701476557 / 7701478115 got amalgamated into the one for the aftermarket as the part numbers are interchangeable when looking. Perhaps that is why the aftermarket Valeo / Luk clutches are of lesser quality?

After what has happened above I really don't want to screw around this time, can anyone confirm if this clutch kit is indeed different?

Many thanks...

The issue with the ‘oem’ aftermarket clutches are the straps holding the pressure plate and cover assembly together. They use thinner metal on the straps and they break - which is when they machine their way through the bellhousing.