182 Just failed MOT - Help

[Andy_con]

sadly the 182 just failed its MOT on steering rack gator has gone and emissions problem.

garage want £75 to do the gator, can anyone offer any advice on how to go about changing this or where its located?

im aware emissions can be a right pain to solve any general advice on this one? they were talking about a gasket probably gone somewhere

 

[1812lsd]

Put your hand on the track rod end and follow the bar back till you feel the steering rack gaiter.

Is the exhaust blowing.

 

[Andy_con]

ok, is it easy to change? im fairly handy when it comes to doing things on car if someone gives me a rough idea on what needs to be done

im assuming as this was only an MOT it can clearly be seen from under the car?

yeah i think the exhaust is blowing a little

 

[Andy_con]

the forum is not very forthcoming with information like it normally is

cant find any info regarding how to change steering rack gator

 

[1812lsd]

Wheel off, Track rod end off, count how many turns so it goes back on in the same place. Then cut any ties holding gaiter in place then pull it off iirc.


To seal the exhaust, use high temp black silicone.

 

[Andy_con]

what a fooking great video, many thanks. looks pretty simple to do, maybe an hours job?

wish there were more videos around like that

am leaving nwo to get the car so will gather a bit more info on exhaust problem

 

[Andy_con]

Local parts place had them in stock, tenner

im assuming it doesn't matter what grease you use?

they said exhaust is blowing right near the engine, where they pipes come down

 

[1812lsd]

Sounds like you need a new CAT fitting kit, buy genuine parts from renault Wolverhampton a trader on here. He is away till the 28th, but if you call them, the guys in the office will sort you out.

Don't use silicone or paste on the CAT fitting kit.

 

[Andy_con]

will have a look tomorrow and see what I can find

 

[Andy_con]

New one and old one look very different

Can you trim these things with a knife?

 

[Mr R.]

The one's you have bought are universal, these are made to fit a range of racks.

The only way you will get them to fit is by cutting/trimming them down to suit.

Failing that you will have to buy one from Renault.

 

[Andy_con]

Cut it and it fits fine, so one side done

What do you do if this nut and bolt both spin? I can't undo it

 

[1812lsd]

Put a jack under it and jack it up, if it still spins, you will need to cut the nut off. Use a nut splitter if you have one.

 

[Dan@SJM]

the forum is not very forthcoming with information like it normally is

cant find any info regarding how to change steering rack gator

That's because most of us techy people reside on cliosport owners club on facebook now.

What were the emission readings?

 

[Andy_con]

Why are cars so s**t to work on, I've tired wd40, shock and unlock, heat and a hammer but it will not move

 

[172_Tom]

Plusgas and leave overnight? Bit of pipe on the end of the spanner for more leverage?

TREs are commonly a pain in the arse as a lot of garages seem to over-tighten them.

 

[Mr R.]

What won't move?

If you are on about the track rod lock nut then put it back into the hub.

Clean the thread's up with a wire brush as they will be full of rust.

 

[1812lsd]

Be easier if you reattach it to the hub, will stop it rotating.

 

[Andy_con]

The nut had turned but the Track rod end won't move

 

[Mr R.]

So the nut is now loose, you can wind it up the rack arm away from the track rod end?

 

[Mr R.]

So the nut is now loose, you can wind it up the rack arm away from the track rod end?

If so then you will have to put the track rod back into the hun and put the nut back on to hold it.

Then you will have to warm up the track rod where the rack arm screws into.
There should be a flat bit on the rack arm where you can fit a spanner?

You will have to work the rack arm as you warm up the rod untill it starts to move.

Don't go to mad as you will need to count the number of turns for when you fit the track rod end back.

 

[Andy_con]

Yes

 

[Andy_con]

Put a spanner on track rod arm and this hasn't helped

Also tried heat and it's done nothing

 

[Mr R.]

How much heat?

It needs to be hot, also something to bear in mind is if you do have to get it hot then it may make the TRE useless as it might end up melting the grease.

Getting it bloody hot will expand the TRE and it will come undone.

 

[Dan@SJM]

Yeh it needs to be glowing.

Set of stilsons will do it.

You could also put the boot in boiling water then slide it over the TRE

 

[Andy_con]

Will have another go tomorrow

 

[Andy_con]

Ill just get a new track rod end, anyone know how much they are?

 

[Diagro]

not too much, Have a look on ebay

EDIT:

these? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RENAULT-C...o|Cars+Type:2.0+16V+Sport&hash=item45fd6aee2d

I need to know which ones too, as i plan on replacing mine next month,

 

[Mr R.]

Just give ECP a call or GSF.

 

[mark smith87]

Try getting the car treated by Terraclean to get the emmissions down. Had mine done and big difference. CO was 0 and HC was 6 parts per million

 

[mark smith87]

Also make sure the exhaust isn't leaking as that will upset the output readings as well

 

[1812lsd]

There is a thread on here that gives the correct part numbers for aftermarket arms from ECP and Micks Garage.
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?675576-possible-cheaper-inner-track-rod

 

[Andy_con]

finally managed to get it off today, I think a night with shock and unlock on it helped. down side is I was unable to count the turns so going to have to get the tracking checked

 

[1812lsd]

14-15 turns should get you near the right spot just to get to the alignment place.

 

[Andy_con]

I used a ruler to take some measurements, so in mm its back in the same place. but not sure on the turn front if its in the same place