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S2 106 GTI
is it a big job to lower the subframe?? i've got a k-tec sports cat on mine at the mo!
2 bolts plus one earth stray its not impossible its just when you do it the car has to be quite high idealy so you can remove the manifold. Thats whay a garage with a 4 post ligft will be able to do the job much easier and quicker.
S2 106 GTI
2 bolts plus one earth stray its not impossible its just when you do it the car has to be quite high idealy so you can remove the manifold. Thats whay a garage with a 4 post ligft will be able to do the job much easier and quicker.[/quote]
got a mate with a 4 post lift he said he'd give it a shot but wanted to know exactly what to do and how hard! so form the manifold to the cat you have to make a new piece of pipe?? have any phot's of 182 manifolds on 172's??
got a mate with a 4 post lift he said he'd give it a shot but wanted to know exactly what to do and how hard! so form the manifold to the cat you have to make a new piece of pipe?? have any phot's of 182 manifolds on 172's??
got a mate with a 4 post lift he said he'd give it a shot but wanted to know exactly what to do and how hard! so form the manifold to the cat you have to make a new piece of pipe?? have any phot's of 182 manifolds on 172's??[/QUOTE]
Do a serch for posts by Andyman he put a picture up some time ago showing it.
Its not hard if you've got use of a lift fine lower the subframe forgot you might need to undo the ball joint but thats only 2 bolts remove the manifold put new one in.
this is how you do it mate
back of the engine remove all 9 bolts that hold the manifold to the engine
dont need to move the earth strap it has enough give in it.
put the car on the lift you will have to put the 2 front posts on the sills (careful)
there are 2 triangular peices of metal held onto the subframe with 4 x 13mm bolts un do these.
there are then 2 big 16mm bolts to the rear of the sub frame support the subframe with a post then undo the two bolts.
then you'll need to remove the dog bone engine mount its 1 18mm bolt at the front and 1 16mm bolt going through the subframe.
once that is off lower down the post and the subframe will lower a little this should be enough for you to clear it with the new manifold
you will then have to undo the manifold from the cat, these are 2 x 10mm nuts and bolts and a c**t to remove you may have to grind them off as they are ment to be there for the life of the car.
on the old cat you have 2 flanges you can cut them off the old cat and weld them into a new piece of pipe (2.25inch) ensure you measure it up right, if you have an after market exhaust it will have some give in it.
you'll need to put the manifold in either though the top or if there is a big enough gap through the bottom bolt it up when you have fitted into position.
you then need to replace the subframe aligning it back with the holes can be some what of a challenge it should mate up if you loosly bolt it up.
if you want to keep a cat then buy a 182 cat and shorten the mid section of the exhaust slightly.
back of the engine remove all 9 bolts that hold the manifold to the engine
dont need to move the earth strap it has enough give in it.
put the car on the lift you will have to put the 2 front posts on the sills (careful)
there are 2 triangular peices of metal held onto the subframe with 4 x 13mm bolts un do these.
there are then 2 big 16mm bolts to the rear of the sub frame support the subframe with a post then undo the two bolts.
then you'll need to remove the dog bone engine mount its 1 18mm bolt at the front and 1 16mm bolt going through the subframe.
once that is off lower down the post and the subframe will lower a little this should be enough for you to clear it with the new manifold
you will then have to undo the manifold from the cat, these are 2 x 10mm nuts and bolts and a c**t to remove you may have to grind them off as they are ment to be there for the life of the car.
on the old cat you have 2 flanges you can cut them off the old cat and weld them into a new piece of pipe (2.25inch) ensure you measure it up right, if you have an after market exhaust it will have some give in it.
you'll need to put the manifold in either though the top or if there is a big enough gap through the bottom bolt it up when you have fitted into position.
you then need to replace the subframe aligning it back with the holes can be some what of a challenge it should mate up if you loosly bolt it up.
if you want to keep a cat then buy a 182 cat and shorten the mid section of the exhaust slightly.
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Alot of work ..... for the dedicated amoungst us 
S2 106 GTI
S2 106 GTI
really! no power difference. i thought it would give abit of extra bhp. just sounds like a big job to do! i have all the tools for making joining piece as i am a welder, and bend pipes and weld them together all the time.
im sure it would show up on paper a few extra BHP but i dont belive in rolling roads so i wouldnt know. even had the car re-mapped for the exhaust mani.
If you are going for futher mods such as cams, throttle bodies etc then it could be a good base for the rest.
what other mods are you running standard 172 cup?
If you are going for futher mods such as cams, throttle bodies etc then it could be a good base for the rest.
what other mods are you running standard 172 cup?
its more low down where the gains are i had mine rolling roaded before and after and its gained a load of torque low down and the curve is a lot smoother,i would show you the graph if i had a scanner,but on the road i think you can tell a difference it picks up really well low down
i paid £130 for the manifold which was off a low mile car so was like new and and just over £100 fitted so in my eyes i wouldnt say it was a waist of money an itg air filter costs more than that,my mate from reno mot'd on monday and i dropped it off at his house on the sunday night and he drives the things all the time and he commented on how well i picks up
RenaultSport cup172 TT309
For Renault to have spent what it'll of cost them to redesign the manifold, re tool , asmblly/build up jigs extar parts etc it must have been viable. Otherwise why didnt they just mod the rest of the exhaust to get the extra BHP ?
It is just the exhaust/manifold that different on the 182 isnt it ?
:S
It is just the exhaust/manifold that different on the 182 isnt it ?
:S
I like those numbers :approve: Hmmm....I'm starting to get seriously tempted by one of these (and I said I'd leave her standard!)
I take it you mean ITG maxogen by that air filter comment? Its a little more than an air filter
. It is expensive though, your right. ITG panel filter is only about £40
I like those numbers :approve: Hmmm....I'm starting to get seriously tempted by one of these (and I said I'd leave her standard!)
I take it you mean ITG maxogen by that air filter comment? Its a little more than an air filter
whats so good about the maxogen then to warrent the price ?
Exhaust catalitic converter and exhast system plus the ECU is mapped for more fuel.
I like those numbers :approve: Hmmm....I'm starting to get seriously tempted by one of these (and I said I'd leave her standard!)
I take it you mean ITG maxogen by that air filter comment? Its a little more than an air filter
whats so good about the maxogen then to warrent the price ?
It does'nt warrant the price, thats the thing! lol v. expensive
Its widely regarded (on here anyhow) as one of the best off the shelf induction mod's. I'm not exactly sure what makes it so good (guess they spent alot on development, hence the price) Think you need a remap to take full advantage IRRC. I'd be tempted by a second hand one.
Do a search. Its been discussed loads
i dont need to search it people like to think its gained them loads to make them feel better for paying £400 for a airfilter,a remap for just an airfilter would be a waist of money
Nice price fitted.... typical prices are £250 manifold and at least £350 to fit (dropping sub frame etc).....
lets say you did get it for £230 all in... thats about 7bhp for £230.... bet no one else on here can get over 7bhp for £230
- as i said, worth!...
Nice price fitted.... typical prices are £250 manifold and at least £350 to fit (dropping sub frame etc).....
lets say you did get it for £230 all in... thats about 7bhp for £230.... bet no one else on here can get over 7bhp for £230
Manifold rework will get more power more often for £180.
Idealy you'd want a remap to get the best.
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