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personally i would rather have the cooper s if it was my only means of transport. its comfy-er, like u say better built and they r bloody good fun too. i used to have a cooper and was sooo frustrated with the crappy engine in a awsome chassis.
for what i need at the mo the clio does everything i need it to.
If I had to choose it would deffo be trhe cooper s,think they look top if theyve got the right extras on.Build quality is better cos youre getting a tiny bmw.Ive test driven a cooper before I got the clio and wasnt that impressed,but I presume the s is a far better car.If it wasnt for the cost of the xtras and limited rear space(got a 2yr old)I would be considering one next myself.
If they were the same money Id choose the MCS, but theyre not by a long way so I plumped for the Clio!
The MCS was very capable, but it didnt feel that quick due to smoothness of supercharger (and it was the Works version i test drove!) and it just felt a bit dull overall - pretty much like most Beemers Ive ever driven...
Matt
dont presume the extra you pay gets you better build quality. i used to work for BMW/MINI until very recently and the list of faults be they design issues recalls or build quality related was huge. they arent as fast, they cost alot more the superchargers and PAS pumps whine like f**k and the boot is non-existant.
307 diesel & 1.2 TCE Clio
I test drove a mini cooper s and the clio, at almost the same time. i loved the cooper s, but then, i also loved the clio. It was a really hard choice, i went for the clio, one it was rated the best hot hatch by many, secondly the price. You really cant beat the spec on the 182 for the cash.
Ant
Astra VXR 17/05/07
I very very nearly went for the Cooper S and i thank God i didnt.
I know all about the pros and cons of both but the list of standard equipment on the 182 along with the performance and the fact every other Mini you see seems to be a Cooper S swung it for me.
As far as depreciation goes....get the Cooper S if you have one eye on future values or the 182 if you want the best thrill seeking pound for pound smiley face making car for under 20k.
I decided if making money or losing as least as possible was a priority then buying a new car is madness whatever badge you buy.
I looked into them all and wanted the best hot hatch under 20k out there,thats why i have a 182 sitting in my garage
Ask the same question on the mini forum and the answer will be totally different if they can fit an answer in between doing blue rinses and perms
I almost went for a Cooper S with union jack roof...i retch and almost vomit at the thought now
Renault Clio 172 Ph2
i still gotta cancel my cooperS! i had a 8 month waiting list, so got bored and ordered a 182. i might be working at bmw soon tho, so may sway to a jcw, if i get discount. tho i wanna tune me 182
Where did this amazing Mini build quality come from?
They are made in ex BL/Austin factories by ex BL/Austin workers I think I am right in saying?
Therefore its just an evolution of the Allegro/Metro?!!!?
How did sticking a BMW badge on it suddenly boost the build quality and reduce depreciation!!! Thats magic!
wot scares me is specing the copper s up. To get a reasonable spec its £1600 on top of the £15200 for the car
The only sweatener I guess is the tlc package at 150 notes for 5 years or 400 for eight.
The other things that worries me is the £1500 bill I have heard about several times for new clutch for the coop S !
Apparently its expected for a "sports car" wtf! lolmust admit i hadnt priced up a clutch job while i was there but pretty much the whole front end of the car has to be unbolted to get the engine out and you need to remove it to change the clutch. i think i specced a MCS up to the same level as a 182 is as standard and it came to about 18.5k and you wont get discount out of a mini dealer.
Elise/VX220/R26
182 is a better overall car than the cooper s especially when when you take price into consideration, a lot of what you pay for mini is the bmw brand. Personally I think they have a bit of an image problem, its always fekkin teachers and middle aged men tthat seem to have them. Not a cool car.
BTW to put it in prespective you can get a 2 year old VX220 turbo for 18.5k!!!!
RB182cup&golf gti
cooper ss are lovely, but so are 182s, for driving i would say 182, for comfort and looks a cooper s in gunmetal grey (or dark metallic silver as they call it)
I test drove both when i was choosing a new car to buy, and eventually decided on the 182.
Admittedly i had owned a Clio before and obviously its cheaper, but still I was very impressed with how complete it was in its equipment. The Cooper S is a funky little car but I would still choose my 182 today.
Minis are just common as dirt, thats a fact. On paper theres not much between them, but I reckon the 182 would attract more glances than a Cooper S.
Conclusion - Dont shell out for the badge. 182 all the way!
Iain C
ClioSport Club Member
mini is 2 fancy for me and deffo 2 expensive..Id have the 182
Mini Cooper S sport
It looks like a lot of Clio owners have had the 172/182/Cooper S dilemma. I went for the 172 - you just get more car & toys for the cash, even if the Minis do hold their value better.
I thought the Minis looked amazing when they first came out, but now it seems like theyre more common than Clios!
My vote - 182 all the way *in inferno
*.i got my 182 instead of cooper s had a bmw mini before good cars and handled better then the clio but a bit audi tt ish too many of em now
Quote: Originally posted by Toypop on 21 January 2005
Where did this amazing Mini build quality come from?
They are made in ex BL/Austin factories by ex BL/Austin workers I think I am right in saying?
Therefore its just an evolution of the Allegro/Metro?!!!?
How did sticking a BMW badge on it suddenly boost the build quality and reduce depreciation!!! Thats magic!
Not heard that thought they would be made in BWM factories? No evelution of anything its a new car trying to sell on a PROPER minis name and it seem to be working
Id go 182 and save some cash
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