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Nippy white cup
We got our Cup in June 03 and we are still smiling...just love to go out for blasts and its much more stable since we got the Eibachs on, especially the light back end...
Chris
Clio 197
Thanks mate, we were ok (although my friend never got the stains out of his pants).
I blame: icy road, new tyres, no food, bad directions and metropolis street racer.
If youre buying a used car, DONT BUY X524 EAL. Lol.
All that said, a Clio 172.182 would have easily made it, no problem.
Arctic 182
Indeed the 182 is quick .. but if im honest the handling isnt up to 205GTIs. Grip maybe, but the car doesnt talk to you like the pug.
Carefull all in this weather, ESP is bollox in my opinion and it doesnt take much to stack you vehicle on these icy roads.
Pissed up old basted!!!!!!!!!
for a standard car its not bad (especially for the price)
I just dont like the feel of the car. Turn in is good, but the back end just feels to "sketchy"
and dont get me started on the body roll!!!!!
plus i hate all the ESP, ABS etc etc etc
100mph through the left hander at Bruntingthorpe??? try 125mph in a properly set up Cup on coilovers!
TBH dave a std 182 is a good car, but theres HUGE room for improvement
the biggest thing that annoys me about the 182 is owners "believing the hype" renault feed them!!!
eg
The special michelin tyres on the 182 are the best ever
The "cup" suspension is fantastic
etc etc etc
IMO its mainly used to sell cars
Its seems to me people are scared to try other things with the 182 (the hardcore are emerging!!!!!) I mean FFS its only tyres!!!!!
TBH i much prefered the mini cooper S to the 182 (comparing standard to standard)
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TBH dave a std 182 is a good car, but theres HUGE room for improvement
the biggest thing that annoys me about the 182 is owners "believing the hype" renault feed them!!!
eg
The special michelin tyres on the 182 are the best ever
The "cup" suspension is fantastic
Theyre obviously going to have to hit a happy medium between usable road car and track day stormer. I was out in a mates P1 and it was far too harsh for our roads, great on a track probably but i dont think i could live with it everyday. Similarly on the 182, ok the cup suspension doesnt eliminate all roll and it could be tightned further for track use - but the number of potholes and roadworks where i am at the mo would break my back on coilovers. Id go from loving the suspension & car to hating it.
Having driven cars with exactlos, toyos, goodrichs, eagle F1s - the Exaltos definitely gave the best grip in the wet and on cornering.
tbh my coilovers on the 172 made the car a smoother ride on poor surfaces. but like you say its striking a happy medium, most owners probably wont be as hardcore as some of us on here, so things like super low suspension might not suit their daily drive, the give and roll will normally save less able drivers from themselves in some circumstances that a set up with a "grip grip grip then gone in a flash" would see them off into the scenery. Basically for the money i dont think you can get a better new car, the spec performance and handling is better than any of the competion at this price. you have a capable car as standard that if you have the cash you can mod into something that will outperform alot more expensive equipment on a b road or track day.
lol, well talking of which, these 17s are only for show use only really!! i want a set of 15s with decent tires for every day use! i was thinking either lightweight alloys, dynamique rims again or maybe 172/182 rims. not sure yet. got some nice LARGE wheel adaptors now thoQuote: Originally posted by Loony on 05 March 2005
get some 16s back on the gay disco, 17s really do spoil the drive.
yup i looked into leda cant justify 1500 on suspension on what is effectively a 13k car new. ill see how the gaz go if im happy they will stay if not when an alternative arrives (IF it does) then i may jump ship. im looking into a set of pro race 2s in white to reduce the unsprung mass too so should also help the handling.
MKIII 138
i think the 172/182 represent an exellent starting point for cheap tuning. i.e removing rear seats 17kgs. Adding prorace 2s 24kgs (unsprung also !) adding lightweight recliners 10-15kgs. so on a 182cup with panel filter lets say with 180hp and a kerbweight 1070 - 17 -1 24 - 10 = 40kgs 1030kg with 180hp
BHP per Tonne = 177.56
add induction kit + decat/sportscat smt7 remap = 188hp maybe ? (im trying to be conservative with figure to be realisitc BTW)
not much over £1000 then for a 185bhp per tonne car which could still acheive 40mpg if driven properly especially since its lighter.
for the record that 1hp more than the 250bhp Alfa 147 GTA the exact same as the 255 (250hp) Cio V6 ! and much more than a Focus RS. also just 5bhp pertonne less than a Subaru Impreza WRX PPP with 261bhp.
imagine throttle bodied 215hp slightly stripped 182cup 212 bhppt ! for 3k a FQ300 Evo is 215 bhppt
Iain C
ClioSport Club Member
Deffo the best bang per buck u can get.
Bored of my cup now tho
I wouldnt say its devastatingly quick tho...
MKIII 138
but you still have aircon driver/passenger airbags ABS/ESP same economy if not better (not on TBs though) safety cell with crumple zones. Normal seat belts CD player + changer Auto rain wipers / Stowage areas only thing gone is back seats (could keep em though) have you ever ben in a kit car there sprtan and usually dont even have a horn let alone a quiet ride and comfort like the 182. Its nowhere near like owning a kit car i have to disagree. its simply adding lighter seats as the 182cup doesnt have side airbags and adding lighter wheels + usual tuning stuff to free up some ponnies and stop the car sounding like a sewing machine i.e induction zorst and tie it up with a remap to maximise the extra airflow. everthing else is standard and looks performs like a normal car of the 182s price. In fact you have more than other cars at that price that are family cars.
yes rear seats in 172 weigh around 17kgs. btw
it makes me laugh at the Torque statements people make ok.. ok i know its a diesel but neither my m8s 270cdi merc 170hp 300lbft or my bros much lighter Fabia VRS with 192hp and 320lbft are any faster in the midrange.. i have vids and RR print outs from jabba sport confirmed LBFT and Vids of 0-60 and 30-70 etc and a 30-90 but we recently had an unexpected blast against each other from 30 upto 70ish and i was exaclty the same speed as the VRS in the midrange although it has more hp and more torque by far ?!? most turbo cars were talking about i.e 4wd like i mentioned weigh around 1400kgs not 1030-1070kgs. past 100mph sure they can pull all they like past the 182 but i dunno if i want to travel that fast in the speeding climate the UK has at the moment.
basically roy was right. for the money and if you tune a bit further you can have a car that will hardly ever be embarassed by your chaved up big hp calibras imprezas or business men types in their Uber 7series BMW saloon with the big V8 they will be fairly pissed at a Reno Clio keeping pace.
[Edited by meggerman on 05 March 2005 at 1:15pm]
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