I had the JDM EP3 with more power, lsd as std etc......and even that was awful compared to my old 172 cup. The EP3 is the dullest overhyped car ever, i spent over 1k trying to improve the feedback with superpro bushes all round, bilstein b12 kit etc. pointless, dreadful eps & feels numb. Yes the engine is smoother than a clio rs, but christ if i wanted smooth i use the wife's car.B-series engines in the dc2/ek9 were more raw and in my opinion epic. On a plus note- i do like the look of them, but would i buy another? no. Only type R i'd have would be a teg with a manual rack.