182 V Megane 225

[Funkyjahooner]

Just had a blast against a Megane on a dual carriageway. Rolling start from about 40mph and there was nothing, and i mean nothing between the 2. He didn`t pull anything and i didn`t gain anything.

Is that about right ? Had to rag mine so he was trying his best. It`s the first time i have had a run in with the Megane and it`s a car i quite like. I always assumed they would pull a little over a 182 ???

 

[gazcaddy]

The megane is slightly quicker on paper but nothing in it until silly speeds, i had a little play with a CTR yesterday and there was bugger all in it as well

 

[Chris1.4RT]

You hooligans.

(lol)

 

[Velocity182]

intresting i assumed it would pull obviously didnt good to hear

 

[Trueblue]

oh oh .... not another one.... at the end of the day the are both nice cars relativley quick, more so the clio in the bends, but i'm sure the meggy 225 in the right hands would give the clio a good go throughout the twisities, bearing in mind it has the cup pack fitted..

 

[Trueblue]

and remember they remap to 270, the clio goes to say 190-192 (correct me if i'm wrong) on a standard car with remap..

now that would be a good wee race eh??

 

[fizzy_drink]

225 won't gain on a 182 until 80/90+.

BUT if you're not prepared (ie wrong gear), the 225 will eat you alive due to its wide torque band.

 

[gazcaddy]

and remember they remap to 270, the clio goes to say 190-192 (correct me if i'm wrong) on a standard car with remap..

now that would be a good wee race eh??

Hes not on about modified cars though

 

[Kev_md]

megane probably not run in properly yet??

 

[Fletcher]

It's all down to the driver, and you don't know how much stick the megane driver is giving it.

 

[Funkyjahooner]

It's all down to the driver, and you don't know how much stick the megane driver is giving it.

I was giving mine loads of stick, i don`t for a second think a Megane can play with a 182 that's giving it everything and not be trying himself.

I`m sure it was a 54 plate, it certainly wasn`t a 55, so i don`t go with the ' not run in ' theory.

He`s a theory....a 182 and Megane are very evenly matched on a straight run with both drivers trying. It`s not beyond belief by the sounds of it.

I`m not trying to get one up on Megane`s and i don`t think there is any shame in not being able to pull away from a 182 !

 

[182 sport]

In my experience the megane is faster than the clio,definately in a straight line.Side by side as soon as the megane changes into 3rd gear its over. Had the experience.

 

[ChrisR]

I had a megane for a few hours on test in the summer, I'd swap my 172 for one, thought it was ace

 

[asmith225]

Not a great deal of difference between them tbh until you hit silly speeds. I've owned both so I can say for definate that the 225 would have been trying.

 

[geordieclio]

i have owned both too and agree nothing in it till the meggy would hit 3rd gear and it's bye bye clio

 

[RSTuning]

To compare the Meggy and a clio is wrong as they are totally different cars, i went from a 182 W cup pack to a Megane Trophy and can say both are good in there own way but if driven correctly the Megane would 100% pull away from a clio (if not spinning the wheels!). The handling on the Megane is awesome and can handle any corner the Clio can. I hear many people say the Clio handles better but tbh i beg to differ. After going from the 182 which sometimes felt a little light on the back end, the Megane feels solid on the road hand handles mint!

Paul

 

[Alex_225]

I don't reckon their would be that much in it. The Clio would out handle the Megane but the Megane would have an advantage on the straights due to the torque and that the power comes in lower than the Clio.

I found that my 172 needed to be driven quite hard to make it perform at its best. Although I'm still running the Megane in it feels a lot less effort due to the power picking up from when the turbo spools up.

They are very different cars but I would highly recommend a 225 as a next step after a 172/182.

Proves one thing though...........RenaultSports are rapid motors either way!

 

[sh33n]

A 225 should pull away slightly once you starting getting above 80ish.

At least one did on me.

 

[Flame172]

well my brother has a 225 and i've got the 172... his car is a fair bit quicker than mine (he'd know he used to own my 172). i mean a lot of the time it is probably down to the driver but with a extra 40/50 bhp over a 172/182 it is going to be quicker

 

[Nigel]

The Megane may have 40-50 bhp more but isn't there only a couple of bhp different in the power to weight ratios?

Also as said above it would be the extra torque of the megane that would allow it to be quicker than the clio when caught in the wrong gear!

Both cars going for it from standing start, wouldn't be much in it! IMO!

 

[Phill1978]

having recently driven a v.heavy 240bhp 3.0 Jag s-type and a 225 + owning 172cup and previous experience of relativley fast cars i can say the clio is much more fun getting to 100mph but the clio loses out on big power cars beyond 80mph. big power cars once rolling and past their weight defficiencies can really pull, its a combination of peak power and torque. the jag in question wasnt that special to 60 of course it has rwd but its porky near 1700kg (700kg heavier than my cup curently thats like a cup with a lotus elise no the roof !!) but beyond 75mph-80mph it pulled really fast and smooth the needle kept on going.

again in the megane i would say it was a tad slower to 60 than my current cup, even with only 1350 kg`s and 225bhp + 200lbft of torque due to the light weight of a cup with no back seats or spare just like a puny 125bhp elise does 5.7 to sixty with its rwd and tiny kerb weight.. thing is after 60 of which there isnt much diffo between a 5.7sec car and a 6.2 sec car it gets trounced. i can easily sit behind the MKI 125 and 135hp elise`s past 60-70mph
and the same story goes for the megane i can sit with one up until 80mph at a push (mine no back seats, no spare, hillpower etc..) but then the megane changes gear and it starts to pull a few lenghs..

a remapped one £350 with 270bhp and 250lbft would have a 240kg penalty over a 182 but it would have a 90lbft (110nm) and 90bhp advantage, wouldnt really make much difference even if the cup could corner a bit better the straight line pace of a remapped megane would be equivelent to an impreza UK Sti but without trans losses and 100kg`s lighter !!

 

[Bluebeard]

My Boss has a 225 with cup pack and after driving 182s 225s and i own a 172, i can honestly say hand on heart, that a 225 with the same angry/competent driver would eat a standard clio.

 

[gazcaddy]

having recently driven a v.heavy 240bhp 3.0 Jag s-type and a 225 + owning 172cup and previous experience of relativley fast cars i can say the clio is much more fun getting to 100mph but the clio loses out on big power cars beyond 80mph. big power cars once rolling and past their weight defficiencies can really pull, its a combination of peak power and torque. the jag in question wasnt that special to 60 of course it has rwd but its porky near 1700kg (700kg heavier than my cup curently thats like a cup with a lotus elise no the roof !!) but beyond 75mph-80mph it pulled really fast and smooth the needle kept on going.

again in the megane i would say it was a tad slower to 60 than my current cup, even with only 1350 kg`s and 225bhp + 200lbft of torque due to the light weight of a cup with no back seats or spare just like a puny 125bhp elise does 5.7 to sixty with its rwd and tiny kerb weight.. thing is after 60 of which there isnt much diffo between a 5.7sec car and a 6.2 sec car it gets trounced. i can easily sit behind the MKI 125 and 135hp elise`s past 60-70mph
and the same story goes for the megane i can sit with one up until 80mph at a push (mine no back seats, no spare, hillpower etc..) but then the megane changes gear and it starts to pull a few lenghs..

a remapped one £350 with 270bhp and 250lbft would have a 240kg penalty over a 182 but it would have a 90lbft (110nm) and 90bhp advantage, wouldnt really make much difference even if the cup could corner a bit better the straight line pace of a remapped megane would be equivelent to an impreza UK Sti but without trans losses and 100kg`s lighter !!

The 3.0 S type jag has a 0-100 time of about 20secs, that three secs slower than the 182 and the jag is about 1.5 secs slower to 60, so the clio still pulls harder to a 100, after that i agree the jaq will catch

 

[gazcaddy]

My Boss has a 225 with cup pack and after driving 182s 225s and i own a 172, i can honestly say hand on heart, that a 225 with the same angry/competent driver would eat a standard clio.

the std 225 is faster about 1 sec faster to 100, but it hardly eats the clio

i think it would be very close on the 1/4 mile run

 

[RSTuning]

the std 225 is faster about 1 sec faster to 100, but it hardly eats the clio

i think it would be very close on the 1/4 mile run

Probably so in a straight line start, the thing you have to remember that the peak torque on the meg is reached at 3000 RPM all the way to the limiter so if you need the power it is there. Both are good cars and i really don't understand why people have these discussions. Bit like saying my dad's car is better than your dad's car. So What:rasp:

The reason peeps buy a Clio is probably different from the reason peeps buy a meg for so at the end of the day they are both fast! Megs are just faster lol.......

Paul

 

[Phill1978]

The 3.0 S type jag has a 0-100 time of about 20secs, that three secs slower than the 182 and the jag is about 1.5 secs slower to 60, so the clio still pulls harder to a 100, after that i agree the jaq will catch

couldnt exaclty say i was driving the jag at over 100 lol but top end on it was pretty good for a car of its weight.

the clio does 17.5 secs to 100 as most people have timed it. auto car timed the trophy at around 16 i belive, but who would keep one standard ? bbtp added their exhaust (not even full system) and fitted a £20 homemade green induction kit and that has been rr`d proven to produce 247bhp less than £20 worth of spendage on it.
the clio is a buzz though even if some people would consider it slow its still rapido enough for me and fun in the process.

just a thought if you have a vxr astra and go for a stage one remap at £300 you get 280bhp ! i think the clio will find it hard to keep pace with this years latest turbo hatchbacks let alone a golden oldie like a FocusRS in a straight line + their handling is improving every generation. the MKIII RS coming out may have 200bhp but its only 20cm`s shorter than the current megane ! and weights nearly as much.

when the VXR corsa Turbo and Polo GTI Turbo hit the streets with 180bhp and tuning potencial the 182/172 and new RS will find it hard to keep the pace.

 

[Funkyjahooner]

Probably so in a straight line start, the thing you have to remember that the peak torque on the meg is reached at 3000 RPM all the way to the limiter so if you need the power it is there. Both are good cars and i really don't understand why people have these discussions. Bit like saying my dad's car is better than your dad's car. So What:rasp:

The reason peeps buy a Clio is probably different from the reason peeps buy a meg for so at the end of the day they are both fast! Megs are just faster lol.......

Paul

Not quite sure what you don`t understand about this thread. ???

It`s not a Megane bashing thread nor a ' My cars better than yours ' at all.

As i said at the start i quite like Meganes and always have

I just asked a question based on an experience i had and thanks all for the replies, we all know they are both cracking car`s