197 or 197 F1

[danny_dub]

Thinking of getting a 197 but dont really know weather to go for the F1 or just a normal cup.

Whats the diffrence between the 2 and what 1 should I go for?

It will see a few trakcs if I buy 1

Cheers!

 

[Gally]

2 threads? R27 or don't bother.

 

[Goodj]

1 thread at a time fella!
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?600070-Thinking-of-a-197...

F1's are the king of Mk.3 Clio's

 

[Sam@NP]

F1's are the king of Mk.3 Clio's

Still play second fiddle to a Trophy :rasp:

/Troll

 

[Goodj]

Still play second fiddle to a Trophy :rasp:

/Troll

Nova GSi > Trophy

 

[Sam@NP]

Axe wound to the leg > Nova

 

[wifey]

Axe wound to the leg > Nova

love it

 

[danny_dub]

whats so special about the R27?

 

[Sam@NP]

Limited edition because it has lots of options and some stickers. Its a cup but with all the extras.

 

[kev182cup]

whats so special about the R27?

nothing but it has recaro seats over the normal 197.

 

[Gaz_]

you can spec a 197 the same as a R27......

 

[kev182cup]

did the f1 not get a quicker steering rack? cant remember. if so ya cant spec that. lol

 

[Gaz_]

nope. 200 cup/pack only

 

[danny_dub]

so whats the 1 to go for? F1? Cup? or R27?

 

[MikeLYR27]

so whats the 1 to go for? F1? Cup? or R27?

Test drive?

 

[danny_dub]

fair comment. Guess its down if I want climate control etc aswell

 

[Weo]

so whats the 1 to go for? F1? Cup? or R27?

F1 is the R27 (with cup chasis/suspension, recaro seats and all the extras....)
Then there is the standard 197 (no cup chasis/suspension unless specced)
Then there is the cup (cup chasis and suspension, no extras....)

You have said you will use it on a 'Few' track days so that says to me, either pay that little bit more and get a R27 (which has the same chasis and suspension as the cup, or get a specced out 197 (with cup chasis/suspension and extras) as your only doing a few track days?

Any 197 that has Red Brembo calipers has the cup chasis/suspension pack, silver calipers means normal suspension and chasis. IIRC.

Sorted!

 

[danny_dub]

cheers bud. Would you not recommend a cup then?

 

[Gaz_]

Yup i would, and have one. I've previously owned a 'normal' silver wheeled 197, and now have a Cup, love it.

You couldnt spec climate in a cup, but you can manual AC. The Cup also has a hard plastic dash, compared to a soft touch of the standard versions, and a non RS steering wheel, but that's all you lose really.... Depends if they would bother you. Imo the cup drives that bit keener, the handling being more focused.

 

[Weo]

Only reason I said a specced 197 or f1 is because you were only going to show it track days a few times, alot of people say you don't need luxuries in England like aircon etc... I rarely use my AC but the climate control I use all the time, also cruise control, speed limiter etc...

I'm glad I got a specced out 197 with cup chassis and suspension, although if the budget would have stretched at the time I would of got a r27... Plus glacier White was only made on one r27 in the UK iirc....

 

[Daniel]

R27 top of my list, cup second, standard 197 third.

 

[alanc1000]

If you can get an R27 at a decent price, i'd aim for one of those, but TBH i still feel they are a bit overpriced second hand. I'd be going for a standard 197 with cup packs.

Its worth noting that even the ride on a bog standard 197 with no cup packs is still about 20% firmer than the outgoing 182 with cup packs. So even in standard guise it handles superbly.

 

[danny_dub]

thanks for the input guys. I have a corsa B reptop atm so climate control, cruise etc doesn't really matter to me. Think a cup is more in my price range. Best get a test drive sorted!

 

[Šįk]

Neither, get an R26 instead.

 

[danny_dub]

thoughts on this please

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...page/1/radius/1501/postcode/so319aw?logcode=p

 

[Sam@NP]

looks ok, running budget tyres and looks like it might need to rear brakes. Id go look at it.

 

[Gaz_]

Same as mine bar the spoiler (I need a cup spoiler looking at them pics)............... I'm crying at the price though

Dan is sound too, bought a car and sold one through him. You'll like the test drive

 

[182michael]

Hang out for an r27.

 

[Matthew]

Seems expensive for a cup. R27's are going for that now...

 

[Gaz_]

Its not, especially for a GW. Remember R27's are 2007 also so older than most Cups

 

[Matthew]

Yeah but cups were alot cheeper to buy in the first place

I'd rather have this for the same money that Steve is selling...

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3026122.htm

 

[Gaz_]

Thats bang on the money for a 30k Cup with Recaros and Speedlines imo, in fact i reckon its at the bottom end. Off to search AT (and slash my wrists)

 

[Matthew]

Thats bang on the money for a 30k Cup with Recaros and Speedlines imo, in fact i reckon its at the bottom end. Off to search AT (and slash my wrists)

See the link in my previous post

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3026122.htm

 

[Gaz_]

See, I wouldnt ever own a LY its homo

Just had a nose, Cups are 8k with no options and base colours. Ones with options fetch more, so not as bad as I thought

 

[Matthew]

Just had a nosey on PH's, can't believe how cheap R27's with low miles are going for!

If they weren't so slow I might be looking at one myself lol

 

[Gaz_]

its all about the girth my friend

 

[chinner r27]

No the f1 r27 I have one in black look on my pics very nice car and only made 500 the cups are ever now

 

[Gaz_]

No the f1 r27 I have one in black look on my pics very nice car and only made 500 the cups are ever now

eh?

 

[Matthew]

eh?

LOL that made zero sense

 

[Sam@NP]

only made 500 the cups are ever now

Stay off drugs kids.