197 owners...

Šįk · May 4, 2009

hey,

just interested in looking into the 197.. (insurance is gona be killer on most other cars which i want...V6!!, also want to stay with the renault sport heratige tbh)

just want to see some pics of what you guys have done with your 197s, what mods have you done.. what RR figures you been getting and what quater mile times have you got!?

i relise they are basicly the same peformance to a 1*2 out of the box so will obv want to upgrade parts such as light-weight wheels, milltek exhaust system, remap etc etc any reviews on the few of you that may have used these parts already? ..yess i could do this to my current 172 but they are becoming overly common, chavy and becoming abit dated now tbh..

..on the other hand the R26 is only going to cost me an extra 200 on ins plus they are going for about the same price.. but i dont like the look of them as much as the 197... is a R26 a better move foward..?

alanc1000 · May 4, 2009

Only a pic of my standard one i'm afraid, but with less than 9k on the clock I got 189.9bhp with a standard engine on a dyno dynamics RR.

I've not heard of any decent figs for modded 197s yet, both R26 and 17 great cars with lots of potential.

Gaz_ · May 4, 2009

Mine

They are good out the box. You wont see any real gain with a remap and exhaust, just like 172/182's..... ie a waste of money imo
Never had it RR'd but coming form a 172 Cup and 182, it pulls well, had a coming together with a 172 Cup in my 197 and pulled a few lengths........

My mods are seats, H&R coilovers and Speedline alloys.........

Steve · May 4, 2009

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb71/g40trophy/forsale002-4.jpg

Gaz_ · May 4, 2009

stop posting tham damn pic!!!

Steve · May 4, 2009

197gaz said:
stop posting tham damn pic!!!

You should see it with it's new boots & black centre caps

Gaz_ · May 4, 2009

Black centres ftw!!! Took me ten mins lol

Alex_X93 · May 4, 2009

One day, gf already wants my ph1.

kevo66 · May 4, 2009

200BHP at the mo! Little more to be eaked out, mods here...

http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/commu...o-197-progress-thread-56k-no-way/Default.aspx

RDH · May 4, 2009

If I could afford to I'd make the jump to an R26. Much better car in every aspect imo.

ForceIndia · May 4, 2009

If the same sort of cash, R26 IMO. Faster, bigger, similar MPG, massively more tuneable.

Brett · May 4, 2009

warren4 said:
If the same sort of cash, R26 IMO. Faster, bigger, similar MPG, massively more tuneable.

Spot on that. 270bhp from an RS Tuning map coupled with the LSD makes the R26 an epic car both on the road and on the track.

I'm a huge fan of 197's too, you can't go wrong with either realy.

trile · May 4, 2009

hello

they're a bit down on claimed power, well depends on the dyno. Optimistic dynos show 200+ bhp, dynodynamics shows 180ish bhp...

standard with milltek and a remap (with a good start) - under 15s (not me).

I bet Kevos car can go in the low 14s maybe even 13s.

mine has just eibach springs and itg panel filter.
Megane R26 is quicker but not as much fun to drive

but depends what u like.

cheers

Matt197 · May 5, 2009

No mods 100% standard. Probably could do with lowering but I am not allowed any mods until I am over 25, Direct Line rules.

Golgarth · May 5, 2009

Only thing I found with the 197 was that a lot of insurance companies required drivers to be 30+. Well, the cheaper insurance companies required 30+

Only bad thing I can say about the 197 is it does have VERY short ratios.......great when you are lethering it, but crap when you are trying to have a gentle cruise.

Mine definately feels quicker, and handles better, than my old Cooper S.

Steve · May 5, 2009

54Dynamique said:
If I could afford to I'd make the jump to an R26. Much better car in every aspect imo.

Apart from the looks:quiet:

CabinFever · May 5, 2009

54Dynamique said:
If I could afford to I'd make the jump to an R26. Much better car in every aspect imo.

I'm glad you put imo, as in mine, the 197 is leaps and bounds ahead in the looks department.

Both offer completely different things, and i'm sure you would not be dissapointed with either.

cat171 · May 5, 2009

P4ers, personally i'd go for a good drive in both the 197 & the Focus RS then go from there.

Šįk · May 5, 2009

LOL thing about the Focus RS is that I could buy one next week as it's no more expensive Than my current 172, but any other car upgrade will have to wait until this Nov/Dec

LOL.

But yea test drive them all I suppose is the best option..

Gaz_ · May 5, 2009

Golgarth said:
Only thing I found with the 197 was that a lot of insurance companies required drivers to be 30+. Well, the cheaper insurance companies required 30+

Only bad thing I can say about the 197 is it does have VERY short ratios.......great when you are lethering it, but crap when you are trying to have a gentle cruise.

Mine definately feels quicker, and handles better, than my old Cooper S.

WTF?! They are cheaper to insure than 182's being grp 15

Kneel · May 5, 2009

Yup I had no problems insuring mine at 21. The megs a ugly as hell imo, 197 is a nice car, I miss mine a lot

NORMY · May 5, 2009

Matt197 said:
No mods 100% standard. Probably could do with lowering but I am not allowed any mods until I am over 25, Direct Line rules.

hmmmmm, thats interesting. iv always thought about getting white wheels on mine, now iv seen it imnot so sure... doesnt have the same affect as the RB 172/182's

nice though.

RB RULES!!!!

Golgarth · May 5, 2009

197gaz said:
WTF?! They are cheaper to insure than 182's being grp 15

Something strange going on then, as I fund a 182/172 to be about £200 cheaper than the 197, when I nsured mine last week, maybe cost of vehicle related?

Strell · May 5, 2009

Golgarth said:
Something strange going on then, as I fund a 182/172 to be about £200 cheaper than the 197, when I nsured mine last week, maybe cost of vehicle related?

Think it is something that is up with your insurers then.
As it was defo cheaper for me to insure my 197 at 19 than it was a 182.

Edit: could be due to the cost of the vehicle, but with bell it didnt make any difference if i said it was worth £10k or £14k

Kneel · May 6, 2009

NORMY said:
hmmmmm, thats interesting. iv always thought about getting white wheels on mine, now iv seen it imnot so sure... doesnt have the same affect as the RB 172/182's

nice though.

RB RULES!!!!

I think it pulls it off just aswell as the 182s, problem is that Chris's FPM has pulled of the mods he's done perfectly:

(PS, sorry for wh*ring my standard car, lol)

revalot · Jun 4, 2009

kevo66 said:
200BHP at the mo! Little more to be eaked out, mods here...

http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/commu...o-197-progress-thread-56k-no-way/Default.aspx

on here 2 then kevo lol

Ribena · Jun 4, 2009

Currently no performance mods. Dynoed at 1800miles on the clock iirc. HTH

eo52vug · Jun 7, 2009

Its just a shame they cant put the r26 engine in the 197 then it would be perfect!

I came from this

to this

and have never looked back i do still love the 197 but the performance just is no match for r26s and with a simple re map its just crazy !

this is IMO

Šįk · Jun 7, 2009

they really that much quicker!? i need to have a ride in a R26 to know i guess... same in price these days... but is the extra power really worth more than the looks of the R27!?

i f**king love the stance of 197gaz 197...

Gaz_ · Jun 7, 2009

Cheers!

Well the clio is pegged back because of its sector size. If it was as quick as a meggy, the meggy needs to be quicker, and so on. The 197 is CTR pace (like the 182) which is the class above. Name me another manufacturer that makes its Clio sized car as quick? (standard

)

Šįk · Jun 7, 2009

yea agree... tbh after today (lakes run) i find my 172 quick and very fun to drive.. so 197 would be as quick and as fun plus the looks are far nicer

but at the back of my mind i always want to have more power under the bonnet which im sure the R26 can give... such a shame about the look with the R26 IMO

only thing i can think of to resolve this problem is R27 + engine mods = done!.. but thats just chucking money down the pisser!

pamarakos · Jun 8, 2009

Sorry but what is the model of H&R coilovers for a clio 197? I cannot find the part number anywhere!! Only KW 1 & 3 is what I can find and I'm very interested in H&R and not anything else!!

thanks for the help!
pamarakos

ForceIndia · Jun 8, 2009

p4ers said:
yea agree... tbh after today (lakes run) i find my 172 quick and very fun to drive.. so 197 would be as quick and as fun plus the looks are far nicer but at the back of my mind i always want to have more power under the bonnet which im sure the R26 can give... such a shame about the look with the R26 IMO

only thing i can think of to resolve this problem is R27 + engine mods = done!.. but thats just chucking money down the pisser!

Try an R26 then go from there. No doubt the 197 looks better, how important that is, is up to you. Doesn't bother me at all, it's a hatchback at the end of the day, there are plenty of coupes etc that are far better looking than any hot hatch, all IMO.