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STEVE182CUP · Apr 8, 2006

has anyone ordered one yet..
personally i wont be....

Motomaniac · Apr 8, 2006

i dont really like it to be honest, i'll stick with a 182.

Rich · Apr 8, 2006

Looks are still not growing on me, awaiting a test drive, prices and options though.

Gweebs · Apr 8, 2006

When are they out??

I don't intend on gettin one, just wondered when all the racin threads will be comin out. 182 vrs 197 (micra lol).:evil:

tameracingdriver · Apr 8, 2006

I dont like it either. It just looks wrong. I almost did like it when i first seen the concept but somehow its not quite ended up looking like it did in the concept.

Also its heavier, and after parking my 182 next to a mk3 clio the other day, its sure to have the ride height of an MPV - no kidding, but the mk3 looked as if it was almost 6 inches taller!

zack40 · Apr 8, 2006

When are they out??

I don't intend on gettin one, just wondered when all the racin threads will be comin out. 182 vrs 197 (micra lol).:evil:........... think there due out 1st of next month..thats what i was told at harratts renault in wakefield...i think they look pretty cool..

my_cougar49 · Apr 8, 2006

Apparantly they are slower than the 182. The extra 15bhp is to account for the extra weight its got to cart around. (And Im not talking about the Mrs! LOl :S ) I dont like it at all.

Tom Rigbanks · Apr 8, 2006

They will be faster on track than a mk2 purely because of the brakes.

KyleB · Apr 8, 2006

looks of the mk3 grow on me everytime i see one on the roads, agree they do ride a bit high, but a nice set of coils will soon solve that

if i had a choice at the minute, i think i'd take a 182.

gazcaddy · Apr 8, 2006

I like it, dont think Ill swap the 182 for finanical reasons

rmccardal · Apr 8, 2006

balls.

Tom Rigbanks said:
They will be faster on track than a mk2 purely because of the brakes.

Jay · Apr 8, 2006

Rich said:
Looks are still not growing on me, awaiting a test drive, prices and options though.

yep same here.

Fancy a 2 seater as my next car though.

Ad · Apr 8, 2006

has grown on me seeing it in the renault magazine today.

There is goona be a long options list though, only AC as standard and 15995 OTR is quite pricey!!!

Smokey McPot · Apr 8, 2006

Test driving one soon...

theone84 · Apr 8, 2006

^^^^^^^^^^
cool let us know how u get on please

Smokey McPot · Apr 8, 2006

Will do, i think they want me to give em the cup back and swap it for that. Highly unlikely.

jonnyboy · Apr 8, 2006

lol 6 months time you'll all be discussing what colour youve orderd

Smokey McPot · Apr 8, 2006

doubt it.

makavelli · Apr 8, 2006

Smokey McPot said:
doubt it.

lol at your forum name matey :clown: some1's a fan of dude wheres my car :clown:

Ben H · Apr 8, 2006

Dave (Smokey McPot) - let me know if No.123 comes back up for sale. As ever.

I'm going to look into the 197. I never really took to the Mk2s in the same way I did to the Mk1s (even though I had a Ph2 172 and currently have a Mk2 1.2), but I find the basic design of the Mk3 Clio is more appealing.

I'd be in a position to buy a new 197, but also to have something like a Clio Williams tucked away should the right car come up!

Thomss · Apr 8, 2006

I'd like to see on ei nthe flesh yes, but from all the pics I've seen to me it don't look to hot.

Smokey McPot · Apr 8, 2006

makavelli said:
lol at your forum name matey :clown: some1's a fan of dude wheres my car :clown:

Well spotted

Smokey McPot · Apr 8, 2006

Ben H said:
Dave (Smokey McPot) - let me know if No.123 comes back up for sale. As ever.

I'm going to look into the 197. I never really took to the Mk2s in the same way I did to the Mk1s (even though I had a Ph2 172 and currently have a Mk2 1.2), but I find the basic design of the Mk3 Clio is more appealing.

I'd be in a position to buy a new 197, but also to have something like a Clio Williams tucked away should the right car come up!

Will do, i was very close to selling him last month. Its had £1000 worth of work since christmas, new steering column, alternator, brake bias valve and various sundry things.....it was all getting a bit much, then i had a problem with the engine cutting out as a knock on from the alternator issues.

At the moment its running sweet, and im as happy as i can be, but its amazing hos annoyed you can get when things break

Tom Rigbanks · Apr 8, 2006

rmccardal said:
balls.

4 pots wont fade. Stock brakes do. Result. A faster track car.

ukaskew · Apr 8, 2006

Tom Rigbanks said:
They will be faster on track than a mk2 purely because of the brakes.

If it stops quicker than a standard 172 I'll eat my hat. They may not fade as quickly but I still can't see one getting round a track faster.

Englebert · Apr 8, 2006

I'd be seriously suprised if the new one is slower round a track.

In a years time you'll be all talking about how the 197 is the bees knees and that the 212 is crap

Tom Rigbanks · Apr 8, 2006

ukaskew said:
If it stops quicker than a standard 172 I'll eat my hat. They may not fade as quickly but I still can't see one getting round a track faster.

It wont stop quicker than a 172, as the braking distance is more related to tyre to tarmac friction, rather than pad to disk friction. However, it wont get brake fade, so for example, on the ring it will lap quicker where the 2 pots of the 172 would fade as the lap goes on they wont on the 197.

Anyone who has done any serious running on track over long runs will understand this.

GazCB · Apr 8, 2006

I will not be getting a 197. I'm not really sure if I think it's a better car in the first place and my next car is going to be a step up not one to the side.

M1TCH · Apr 8, 2006

Tom Rigbanks said:
They will be faster on track than a mk2 purely because of the brakes.

reviews say not!!

faster on 0-60 iirc but not around a track. those brakes cant make up for the stupid amount of weight its carrying, being there 6 air bags etc!

Bakes · Apr 8, 2006

You can order one towards the end of May I think

Smokey McPot · Apr 9, 2006

The venturi ducting that produces 40kgs of downforce will help

lambo182 · Apr 9, 2006

Is the 197 being sold yet? or delivered? I'm 100% sure I saw a black one being driven like a tit around Kilwinning.... had small (silver) writing at the right hand side of the tailgate and looked as if it had the rear air diffuser thing at the bottom of the bumper? Was I seeing things?

my_cougar49 · Apr 9, 2006

still think it looks like a bag of w@nk and nothing anyone says will change my view on that. 182 all the way anyday.

I dont think the 197 could give me the same fun as my 182 ' A smile a mile'

GazCB · Apr 9, 2006

Smokey McPot said:
The venturi ducting that produces 40kgs of downforce will help

I'd be surprised if it had as much effect as that. 40kgs at it's top speed maybe. The effect of the venturi at the kind of speed you'd be driving on the streets? None...

Ady182 · Apr 9, 2006

Ady182 · Apr 9, 2006

my_cougar49 said:
still think it looks like a bag of w@nk and nothing anyone says will change my view on that. 182 all the way anyday.

I dont think the 197 could give me the same fun as my 182 ' A smile a mile'

No-ones driven it yet!!!!!!!!! Give it a chance, everyone seems so keen to put it down and yet nobody has been near one!

GazCB · Apr 9, 2006

We probably deep down all want it to be rubbish because we don't want our own cars to become "the inferior old model"!

gazcaddy · Apr 9, 2006

GazCB said:
We probably deep down all want it to be rubbish because we don't want our own cars to become "the inferior old model"!

It wont be rubbish, I dont think Renaultsport has made a bad car yet

GazCB · Apr 9, 2006

Apart from the Meggy "F1", give me break. It looks tacky as fook.

gazcaddy · Apr 9, 2006

GazCB said:
Apart from the Meggy "F1", give me break. It looks tacky as fook.

I agree, Im not keen on the stickers but that doesnt make it a bad car

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