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200 bhp clio



  C63 AMG, F430 & 172
your experience differs from most, there's always worser case scenarios, but 9 times out of 10 cams get you to 200+bhp with a remap. Forget inlet work, headwork etc etc, you dont need to do all that to get to that figure.

cams, exhaust, remap, decat.
RR's are not always 100% accurate, but come on, you're making out like they can over or under read by 100bhp, they are usually a few bhp out at most... obviously you get bad RR ops, but most people on here who have these 200+bhp packages have had their cars RR'd at several different RR places.


Or we could just buy a cheap car that has had the work done... Then justify the cost to all members having spent the money/hassle modding it?:rolleyes:
 
  E92 M3 Monte Carlo
your experience differs from most, there's always worser case scenarios, but 9 times out of 10 cams get you to 200+bhp with a remap. Forget inlet work, headwork etc etc, you dont need to do all that to get to that figure.

cams, exhaust, remap, decat.
RR's are not always 100% accurate, but come on, you're making out like they can over or under read by 100bhp, they are usually a few bhp out at most... obviously you get bad RR ops, but most people on here who have these 200+bhp packages have had their cars RR'd at several different RR places.

thers not a lot wrong with the standard cams it whats around them like head imperfections and inlet etc
 
  cup 182 mit stripes
Think Jesus is right about headwork. Nick Hill reckons it's not cost effective in the pursuit of big Clio power.
 
  Polo GTi
your experience differs from most, there's always worser case scenarios, but 9 times out of 10 cams get you to 200+bhp with a remap. Forget inlet work, headwork etc etc, you dont need to do all that to get to that figure.

cams, exhaust, remap, decat.
RR's are not always 100% accurate, but come on, you're making out like they can over or under read by 100bhp, they are usually a few bhp out at most... obviously you get bad RR ops, but most people on here who have these 200+bhp packages have had their cars RR'd at several different RR places.


Or we could just buy a cheap car that has had the work done... Then justify the cost to all members having spent the money/hassle modding it?:rolleyes:

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The head is CNC'd, from my flow development there are virtually no gains from 'tidying' up, alot of work needs to be done to considrably change the port to make a difference.

Easiest and cheapest gains are not from porting but from a decent (read NOT 3 angle) seat job as this requires so porting labour.

Unless your pushing, dont fully rework, just bowl port/seat work.
 
your experience differs from most, there's always worser case scenarios, but 9 times out of 10 cams get you to 200+bhp with a remap. Forget inlet work, headwork etc etc, you dont need to do all that to get to that figure.

cams, exhaust, remap, decat.
RR's are not always 100% accurate, but come on, you're making out like they can over or under read by 100bhp, they are usually a few bhp out at most... obviously you get bad RR ops, but most people on here who have these 200+bhp packages have had their cars RR'd at several different RR places.


Or we could just buy a cheap car that has had the work done... Then justify the cost to all members having spent the money/hassle modding it?:rolleyes:

lol, jealousy is a wonderful thing :lolup:

What's my car got to do with it, we're talking about getting a car to 200bhp you knuckle dragging f**k wit :clown:
 
  GDI ???BHP Cliosport172
PMSL @The Jesus- I think after 3pages this thread has shadowed over my situation. A car that no doubtedly shifts like sh*t of a shovell but im YET to find a rolling road that tells me ive actually hit near 200brake. As far as im aware all the dynos ive had so far seems to be going down,so lets hope Surrey rolling road might bring me a bit of hope.
I got my cams fitted at a very good price but with quite a few very poor side affects that im not at all happy with&ive written to the company in question to be told they believe what they,ve done is correct&the car is fine.
Every company seems to have their own idea on how a set of cams should be set up-i was always under the impression that it was to improve Top end power where mine as a*se about face!
 
PMSL @The Jesus- I think after 3pages this thread has shadowed over my situation. A car that no doubtedly shifts like sh*t of a shovell but im YET to find a rolling road that tells me ive actually hit near 200brake. As far as im aware all the dynos ive had so far seems to be going down,so lets hope Surrey rolling road might bring me a bit of hope.
I got my cams fitted at a very good price but with quite a few very poor side affects that im not at all happy with&ive written to the company in question to be told they believe what they,ve done is correct&the car is fine.
Every company seems to have their own idea on how a set of cams should be set up-i was always under the impression that it was to improve Top end power where mine as a*se about face!

hmm, seems odd that, most camm'd 1*2's make around or over the 200bhp mark mate and the power coming in shouldn't be affected all that much. It's usually bottom end of the revs that suffer ever so slightly, but mid range and top end is greatly increased.
 
  GDI ???BHP Cliosport172
Ive had the cams looked at&they were not sdet to the standard renault timing but their own! The exhaust cam was estimated about 5/6degrees out meaning that the power increase is in the wrong place-its instant from the off but by about 4-5k its gone!
May sound idea for gettin off the lights but add the ingredients of all the side affects and its nasty sh*t!
Ive had 198bhp@the fly from original fitters,then 176 from another then last one said 160@the hubs(wheels removed!) which they say with 18% losses works out to about 185ish!
 
  cup 182 mit stripes
Sorry to hear you never got your cam problems resolved jph. You can console yourself with the thought that you have exposed that company as the nasty ,dishonest, shower of incompetents they undoubtedly are,and in the process saved other people from having your own bad experience.

It's an ill wind................
 
Can't quite remember, but was this the BB Tuning package jph172? I'd take it to Andy or someone and get the cams retimed and it mapped on the RR personally, it should be all fine then mate.
 
  C63 AMG, F430 & 172
Or we could just buy a cheap car that has had the work done... Then justify the cost to all members having spent the money/hassle modding it?:rolleyes:

lol, jealousy is a wonderful thing :lolup:

What's my car got to do with it, we're talking about getting a car to 200bhp you knuckle dragging f**k wit :clown:


lol @ jealousy..oh god.. i really should be doing better for myself
 
well why mention my car which has nothing to do with this thread then? I think I made a pretty clear and accurate post, as you dont need headwork etc etc to get 200bhp, basic breathing mods and a remap are all that's needed, so how that has anythnig to do with my car I have no idea... trolling?

In any case I couldn't care less if you drive your dad's M3 around, sure they are pimp, but that's hardly an advantage if the person driving it is a complete an utter gimp mask :clown:. It wasn't you I left for dead on the A34 was it?
 
  Lionel Richie
Ive had the cams looked at&they were not sdet to the standard renault timing but their own! The exhaust cam was estimated about 5/6degrees out meaning that the power increase is in the wrong place-its instant from the off but by about 4-5k its gone!
May sound idea for gettin off the lights but add the ingredients of all the side affects and its nasty sh*t!
Ive had 198bhp@the fly from original fitters,then 176 from another then last one said 160@the hubs(wheels removed!) which they say with 18% losses works out to about 185ish!

James stop going to rolling roads! its not going to make 200bhp with incorrectly setup cams in it, save your money
 
  C63 AMG, F430 & 172
lol.. if it was me in "my dads m3" you wouldnt leave it for dead.. mind you fantasy rollers do give shameful side effects
 
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  EK9 + Mfactory gearing..
surley it depends on what cams as to where the power would be? they should have asked you if you wanted mid or top end etc? if you wanted better torque then headwork is advisable from my own experience, mine ran 181lbft with it.
 
  GDI ???BHP Cliosport172
Well i was,nt given a choice!
But all the power is wasted gettin off the line!
ben-p, i wouldnt be so sure, especially when you can see an evo viii do a 13.8@santa pod &a clio with tb,s do a 13sec dead!
 

Ali

  V6, Trackhawk, GTS
mine ran 192.6 without a 182 mani...So i've got to be close if i got one!! Thats without cams..

(So the machine said!!;))
 
  A Beautiful R32
errr.. haven't read any of the previous posts (too lazy -it's friday!) but I would have said surely a morego 202 conversion would do the trick ?!
 
  C63 AMG, F430 & 172
Well i was,nt given a choice!
But all the power is wasted gettin off the line!
ben-p, i wouldnt be so sure, especially when you can see an evo viii do a 13.8@santa pod &a clio with tb,s do a 13sec dead!


yer on a national road 60 and going up.. lol i mean i know its a clio n all ... my bad... this is only a 343bhp or so with smg with 6 gears, lsd, 6 pot, 32valve, ...(limited to 155)
 
  E92 M3 Monte Carlo
The head is CNC'd, from my flow development there are virtually no gains from 'tidying' up, alot of work needs to be done to considrably change the port to make a difference.

Easiest and cheapest gains are not from porting but from a decent (read NOT 3 angle) seat job as this requires so porting labour.

Unless your pushing, dont fully rework, just bowl port/seat work.

i think i'll take nicks word for it thanks
 
No brain and about 3k.

Get a faster car.

lol

like what?

To answer my own question, armed with a copy of EVO, say you spend a few k and take your clio to 200bhp/ton. Lets see what I could have bought -

350z - 197bhp/ton
golf r32 - 163bhp/ton
audi s4 - 206bhp/ton
impreza sti - 188bhp/ton
boxster - 188bhp/ton
evo 260 - 180bhp/ton

say you were completely stupid and spent a fortune on your shitty clio and had 240bhp/ton

audi rs6 - 244bhp/ton
impreza spec C - 240bhp/ton
997 carrera - 234bhp/ton
your talking serious performance cars only that make this sort of power to weight

bmw m3 - 219bhp/ton.............

I am not trying to justify spending a fortune on a car that costs 12k brand new but something with enough pace to worry an m3 driver and in one of the best front drive chassis ever developed its not all bad?

It hasnt got a bmw badge but I wouldnt class that as a bad thing;)
 
  R5gtt, 182, volvo...
why is everyone so bothered about it been 200bhp.....


fook knows, its the most asked question on many forums where the cars standard produce lower than 200bhp... i can't see the skyline club asking it but im sure they get the "how can i get 300bhp" questions..
 
The head is CNC'd, from my flow development there are virtually no gains from 'tidying' up, alot of work needs to be done to considrably change the port to make a difference.

Easiest and cheapest gains are not from porting but from a decent (read NOT 3 angle) seat job as this requires so porting labour.

Unless your pushing, dont fully rework, just bowl port/seat work.

i think i'll take nicks word for it thanks

Be my guest.
 
  ITB BG 182
for 3k you could stick a bike engine in a mini or on to a go-kart an im sure either of the 2 will run all over any clio modified to the eye balls.
 
Remember, replacing some internal parts such as cams with other major tuning work can actually loose you bhp as somebody I know recently discovered!
 
  RenaultSport clio 182
Danerous Dave, I totally agree with you. I don't know what the obsession is with more power on this forum. Whats the point in spending £2k on getting more power if your, brakes, suspension etc cant handle it. More importantly whats the point if the driver cant handle it.

Save your money and book and book a course with these people here instead http://www.cadence.co.uk/ Far better way to spend your money than any power upgrade.

Too many people on here reading Max Power magazine I think.
 
oh and chrisK's 172 ran a 5.6 at fcs.. thats not m3 speed.

with respect to Chris that was him driving it, not me. I'll get well under that and the 14.3 @ 105 or whatever it ran. it's also not the greatest of surfaces for SQM's as everyone's results were pants. Either way, on the move i'll be pulling away from your 343bhp supercar, this is a fact. I've already had blasts with two M3's with the same result, 2nd time however I was 2 up, not that it made an ounce of difference, as I still pulled a few cars on him up a stretch of the A34.
 
  Ph1
Danerous Dave, I totally agree with you. I don't know what the obsession is with more power on this forum. Whats the point in spending £2k on getting more power if your, brakes, suspension etc cant handle it. More importantly whats the point if the driver cant handle it.

Save your money and book and book a course with these people here instead http://www.cadence.co.uk/ Far better way to spend your money than any power upgrade.

Too many people on here reading Max Power magazine I think.

Still not gonna help you on a quarter mile tho is it !

People mod the engine of there Clio for all sorts of reasons
 


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