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200T VS 220 Trophy
- Thread starter Robmarriott
- Start date
Yes.
But with heavy VAGTax
By the time you've spec'd it to be nice, prepare yourself for a £30k bill.
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
And residuals to boot. What it'll actually cost over 3yrs to run is the important bit imo. I'd say less than the clio once French depreciation is taken into account.
I thought they were white only?
Very true.
But just as the Audi becomes a "fix that bauked quattro system under your own pennies", the Kia has another 4 years of warranty to go with.
After 7 years though, yes, they'll be becoming almost as worthless as a 197 is now.
massiveCoRbyn
ClioSport Club Member
Several
I like the Kia, a lot of car for the money. I think the Clio 200 looks a right minger by comparison.
I looked at Golf's recently and they are very, very expensive in my experience. For a boggo GTI on PCP it was £450 a month over three years. A Skoda Octavia vRS, which is the same car, only more practical, was only £350 a month. Admittedly both of those are based on 15k miles p.a. but the difference in price is a big one.
You can lease a Golf R for about £300 a month.
I looked at Golf's recently and they are very, very expensive in my experience. For a boggo GTI on PCP it was £450 a month over three years. A Skoda Octavia vRS, which is the same car, only more practical, was only £350 a month. Admittedly both of those are based on 15k miles p.a. but the difference in price is a big one.
You can lease a Golf R for about £300 a month.
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
You can get an M135i for £299 a month with £2k down on a 4 year PCP, thats with circa -23% off the new price.
A friend just got rid of his S3 Saloon for a Polo Gti on lease, that costs £145 a month lol. Golf R is circa £250 a month.
If you consider depreciation, my M3 would be cheaper to run than a 200T over 3 years, look at the Meganes, lolworthy residuals.
I love hot hatch Renaults, but i genuinely cant think of any reason to buy a Clio 200T.
A friend just got rid of his S3 Saloon for a Polo Gti on lease, that costs £145 a month lol. Golf R is circa £250 a month.
If you consider depreciation, my M3 would be cheaper to run than a 200T over 3 years, look at the Meganes, lolworthy residuals.
I love hot hatch Renaults, but i genuinely cant think of any reason to buy a Clio 200T.
You have my attention. Now, give me your links
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Spot on. The reason I won't be buying another new one. Luckily I got mine at a really heavy discount in 2012 when I ordered. It still hurts though.
It'll be staying now though, I don't like the 250/265 enough to warrant the jump. I'll probably just spend on the 200 and pump money into it that I'll never get back.
CS life.
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Quite why you would consider a 200T over this i have no idea:
http://www.ukcarcontracts.co.uk/car-leasing-volkswagen-polo-hatchback-18_tsi_gti_5dr_dsg-67166.html
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
[QUOTE="Goodj, post: 10994887, member: 36061"
Logic need not apply :smiley:[/QUOTE]
I liked the idea of it being "my" car and to my exact spec. Still do.
No one specs 200s properly, so it had to be done. Consider it a public service.
Logic need not apply :smiley:[/QUOTE]
I liked the idea of it being "my" car and to my exact spec. Still do.
No one specs 200s properly, so it had to be done. Consider it a public service.
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Yes, yours was essentially what i was going to get, bought the 197 Cup and hated it, so glad i spent £6.5k instead of £20k lol.
Robmarriott
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 182 Cup
Polo GTI for £145 a month? that might be the option!
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Ha! Fair.
I've got a few plans knocking around for mine. None drastic, just want to gear it towards fast road a bit more.
Robmarriott
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 182 Cup
https://www.contracthireandleasing....rs/uk-car-contracts/volkswagen/polo/65390890/
Is this real or a scam? Seems mega cheap
Is this real or a scam? Seems mega cheap
You'll never be thanked, but no-one who does good ever is
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Not sure on that particular link, but my mates was delivered on Monday, for a similar price, so they are available. Or where anyways.
My M135i was £285 a month!
massiveCoRbyn
ClioSport Club Member
Several
23% off the new price? Where? Not that I am a huge fan of the M135i myself.
What kind of mileage would you need to do to get a Golf R for £250 a month? Most I've seen are more like £300 a month over two years. For me it's more like £350 a month because I do c.15k per year.
The Megane Cup-S is cheap to lease, can have one for not much more than £200 a month if you don't do many miles, but not a great choice if you want creature comforts.
It depends what you want at the end of the day. You can worry all you like about depreciation but, if your car is your hobby and you can afford it, then you should have the car what you want. If you can't look past the £££s, you can lease a Citroen C1 for less than £100 a month.
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
TRL on BabyBMW. The 340i is also on mega discount at the moment, circa 25% lol!!
Leasing wise, the 330e is the uber deal this month: https://www.gateway2lease.com/cars/...-saloon-petrol-330e-2.0-phev-m-sport-auto.php
£230 a month!!
With leasing, if you see a good deal, you have to just jump on it, the more you faff, the less likely you are to get a bargain.
Volvo XC60 T8
Like changing to a megane?
Reading your post makes me feel ill, was told there were no discounts at all when I bought the 200 for full retail price
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Have you seen it? Whats it like?
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
I saw one last night on the way home. Looked very smart. I've not read reviews... well, EVO about them though.
Depends what you want.
Depends what you want.
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Not seen it as he lives in Leamington Spa, but he says its very good. A 1/3 of the cost of the S3, but certainly not a 3rd of the car.
Said the gearbox is better, its more fun and its nice having a normal handbrake again, so he can do skids in the work carpark.
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
There's something to be said for a normal car that gets you to work quickly, without spilling your coffee.
Having a boot big enough for 4 dead prostitutes is a bonus too.
davo172
ClioSport Club Member
TCR'd 172
Is the trophy that much !? WOW !! not even in the same class as the 3 cars above in any way IMO
Plus they will all be worth twice as much as a trophy when they are 3 years old lol
R3k1355
ClioSport Club Member
The Trophy is just under £22k OTR, £23K if you want LM and another £1500 or so if you want fancy seats.
Being special edition I doubt Renault will do much of a deal on them, so the prices are fairly fixed.
davo172
ClioSport Club Member
TCR'd 172
I reckon they will need to do some decent deals to sell them !
Volvo XC60 T8
Good discounts on carwow. I got a quote for a 200 for £17k. Should think similar discounts on a trophy too
R3k1355
ClioSport Club Member
Just plugged some info in, best offer was £19,710 for cash (9.5% saving) or on finance £20.5K.
Thats on base spec, no options.
200t is a cracking car probably the best Renault sports I've owned yeah not to everyone's taste but its quicker than previous models cheaper to run cheaper to tax and insure and a cracking drive I got mine as an ex managers car 16.5k with 600 miles on the clock and its just turned over 40k now and don't regret trading in the 200 at all such a better car
Faster in the real world, yes, where a good seam of torque will always be better than a rev-nutter. The 200 was never the darling, let's be honest. Well maintained (as in, stock-for-stock in comparison) 182s will at the very least hold a 197/200 on a normal road, if not leave them trailing as the same engine tries to pull an extra lump of weight along the road.
But cheaper to run? A 182 will do 40mpg on a long run and there's significantly less electrics to go full-Renault. For instance I wouldn't trust that gearbox to change a bin bag, let alone manage full-bore upshifts without running off to Madame with a fault code and several lumps of metal stuck to the inspection magnet.
Still, I'd rather have a C'eed GT
The gearbox is fine, Renault didn't make it.
Faster in the real world, yes, where a good seam of torque will always be better than a rev-nutter. The 200 was never the darling, let's be honest. Well maintained (as in, stock-for-stock in comparison) 182s will at the very least hold a 197/200 on a normal road, if not leave them trailing as the same engine tries to pull an extra lump of weight along the road.
But cheaper to run? A 182 will do 40mpg on a long run and there's significantly less electrics to go full-Renault. For instance I wouldn't trust that gearbox to change a bin bag, let alone manage full-bore upshifts without running off to Madame with a fault code and several lumps of metal stuck to the inspection magnet.
Still, I'd rather have a C'eed GT
So mk2 gearboxes are reliable lol? On a run i can see 40+ no issues round town 30-35 and on track they go as well if not better than any other rs ive owned?
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