getting some lowering springs from ktec. do i go for the 35mm ones or 60mm. i have quite a bit of weight in the boot (install) and looks quite low as it is. whats it like with ppl in the back ? im rollling on 17s at the mo. 60mm or 35 ? how much shud i be paying for fitting, top wack.
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35mm drop or 60mm.
- Thread starter Rich_M
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getting some lowering springs from ktec. do i go for the 35mm ones or 60mm. i have quite a bit of weight in the boot (install) and looks quite low as it is. whats it like with ppl in the back ? im rollling on 17s at the mo. 60mm or 35 ? how much shud i be paying for fitting, top wack.
The trouble is - what people dont know, cos they havent seen the car - is that if you drop it 60mm on the rear, you are going to create problems, due to the weight from the ICE. You will not be able to carry passengers in the rear.
When I had 17s on my old 1.2, which wasnt lowered and didnt have ICE in the boot... if I had two adults in the back of the car, I heard it catch once or twice.
At 60mm on the rear of the car, I can see some damage occurring.
sorry jon1978, have to disagree with ya, you must have been running with the wrong offset, my motor with 3 people in the back (its 110mm lower than std without anyone in the back) sit with a good 1/2 inch of rim inside the arch with no problems (well accept when the wheel bearings go every couple of months!!!!)
Thats set at 70ish
http://www.faceparty.com/public/696/images/keepmesane_4947257.jpg
will get more on friday.
Quote: Originally posted by G_Man on 28 January 2004
ive had 4 ppl in the back and im running 17s and 60mm never heard a noise no catching or anything my mates got the 35mm springs and tbh i cant tell that its lowered
Thats a bit f**king stupid isnt it...?!! Its illegal and dangerous, and you can barely fit two adults comfortably in the back of the Clio!
Quote: Originally posted by Fred2001Dynamic on 28 January 2004
sorry jon1978, have to disagree with ya, you must have been running with the wrong offset, my motor with 3 people in the back (its 110mm lower than std without anyone in the back) sit with a good 1/2 inch of rim inside the arch with no problems (well accept when the wheel bearings go every couple of months!!!!)
Disagree all you like. Its not good for the car, in its standard form. All decent mechanics will tell you the same.
But if it works for you then great. Im not discussing this.
And the offset was correct.
According to Renault standard Clios (cant comment on 172s) and also according to TSW/Yokohama, the correct offset is 35.
Anyway mine felt like its ass-end was dragging on the floor when there were two adults in the back.
The Cup however, is remaining standard. Apart from the exhaust, I am going to be square and keep the car standard. I figure they built the car on the springs it has, and the wheels it has for a reason. I guess with a 1.2 it doesnt matter what you do to it, as it is hardly a performance motor!
Mind you it has got to be one of the quickest 1.2 small cars around!
No, the standard ET must be around 43 as the wheels dont stick out morer than a 172, and definetly not more than a cup at ET38.5. I think ET37 must be the limit if you lower a lot as i have just enough clearance on mine with ET38.5.
Aftermarket wheel specialists recommend ET35 (like team dynamics, speedline etc) purely because it looks best.
-Rob
Quote: Originally posted by Jon1978 on 28 January 2004
The Cup however, is remaining standard. Apart from the exhaust, I am going to be square and keep the car standard. I figure they built the car on the springs it has, and the wheels it has for a reason. I guess with a 1.2 it doesnt matter what you do to it, as it is hardly a performance motor!
Mind you it has got to be one of the quickest 1.2 small cars around!
The development/testing is obviosly much more lengthly over aftermarket set ups which is beneficial for Mr Average but if you use the Cup on track a bit (personally think it would be a crime not to) youd start to wish you had a more focused set up. After all the Cup racers have coilover eibachs and have 15 inch wheels, completely diff! How do the renault mechanics allow that eh?!
-Rob
i have gone for 40mm pi springs. i went to many different garages and they assured me i would not be able to lower my clio 60mm. it would rub and give me loads of problems. they said the only way i could get 60mm would be to roll the arches. so ive gone for 40mm springs.
Mk2 Golf GTI
Rich_M, is this a Renault specialist garage? Most garages like to say 60mm is too much as it is on some cars, like the older clio. The thing is they have probably never done it on a new clio and only think it will be too much. RobFenns is lowered 80mm and freds is lowered 110mm on 17s!! Dont be such a pussy
My mate has 17s and a 60mm drop and only the tiniest amount of rubbing on full lock, but this is because he doesnt have the desired offset. Spacers will sort itJon1978, im sorry but the standard setup is obviously not the best you can get. Even though the cup is a performance motor, it still has to be designed with a compromise of comfort and performance in mind. Why is it that freds car beat a cup round the twisties? Because its slammed on its arse and he can corner flat out!!
Hmmmmmmm...
Speaking from personal experience anything less than 60mm is pointless on the clio!
Ive got mine lowered 60mm on spax springs and im on 17s with a tyre profile of 205/40 with the correct offset & I tested mine with 6 people in the car (including me) and I got no rubbing even over road humps. Also I do not get rubbage on full lock either.
So I do not know what garages you spoke to Rich but I think they were telling you porky pies!
heres a pic of mine lowered 60mm on 17s. Hell some people even ask me if mine is lowered :O just coz the clio is high as standard, I wish I went 80mm, but would mean shocks etc.
http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1075569950__markscar009.jpg
http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1075570358__CarSpeakers025.jpg
ive also got a couple of pics of it when im actually moving as well to show you how well the wheel follows the arch when its lowered 60mm.
Oh yeah, its so practical, ive just changed to a tyre profile of 50
hehe.
BMW e46 320 Ci Sport
i went for 35-40mm on PI springs m8 and as fred told me when i asked about it on here...i now want 60mm ive heard so many people doing it on clios with 17s on and no problems. I like my drop as it sits nicely at the front cause of the engine but at the rear its higher...on the 60mm the front doesnt look much lower than mine but the rear just sits lovely...when i get my alloys im gonna sell my springs and get 60mm.
