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whats the weight saving with your kit?
OK, let me know.
Whats the performance advantage over standard? Is it just a reduction in fade or do you get shorter stopping distances aswell?
An AP Racing setup would be nice. Does anyone know much about Godspeed? They offer a kit.
http://www.godspeedbrakes.co.uk/Alloy_Calipers/alloycal.htm
http://www.godspeedbrakes.co.uk/Alloy_Calipers/alloycal.htm
FF 182, K5 GSX-R1000
The guy is big into ralling and knows his stuff but customer service is something to behold. Dont expect your products the same year as you order them!!!!
Hes only down the road from me but I am still to meet him! I dont think the phone number is working at the moment either - I have been trying to speak to him for the last couple of weeks. From poeple I know though he is supposed to be s**t hot with brakes - I think Fred (yozzasport) knows him quite well
If you manage to get in touch drop me a pm with any info.
Just searched the forum, Brians Brembos look rather nice.
The biggest advantage i found with them is the pedal 'feel', the dead travel has gone and the travel is solid instead of lifeless and spongy.
Stopping distances have been dramactically reduced, overall the best mod i have done!!!
Where are you based Mark? If you want to try them give me a shout.
Stopping distances have been dramactically reduced, overall the best mod i have done!!!
Where are you based Mark? If you want to try them give me a shout.
RS Clio 200
yes, my point exactly.... the standard setup is capable of skidding easily, therefore is capable of the same braking a 4 pot setup is
On mountain bikes, you can lock the wheels with a set of rusty u-brakes at the right speeds/ with the right roads conditions.
Would anyone ride a nats downhill course with u-brakes over discs?
Ive not seen anyone thats gone from standard brakes to 4-pots say they're a waste of time, yet plenty that havnt tried them have said that you dont need them. Go figure...
Would anyone ride a nats downhill course with u-brakes over discs?
Ive not seen anyone thats gone from standard brakes to 4-pots say they're a waste of time, yet plenty that havnt tried them have said that you dont need them. Go figure...
There's a set of ap 4 pots from a clio v6 on ebay (not sure if they would be any use though)
Personally I too think that the standard set up on a 172 is more than adequate, my dads are really sharp, much sharper then the ones on my vee (standard ap 4 pots) even my brembo's on my ex 20vt weren't as sharp as the 172's brakes - before anyone says it, all discs & pads are totally fine !
I guess it depends what you want the set up for though ?? Fast road or track use I guess ?
Personally I too think that the standard set up on a 172 is more than adequate, my dads are really sharp, much sharper then the ones on my vee (standard ap 4 pots) even my brembo's on my ex 20vt weren't as sharp as the 172's brakes - before anyone says it, all discs & pads are totally fine !
I guess it depends what you want the set up for though ?? Fast road or track use I guess ?
RS Clio 200
Actually, Fred says his standards are better than Yoz's 4Pots, and Brian admits he doesnt like his Brembo kit.
Clio 182
I have the GDI Willwood kit.
http://www.greydevilindustries.com/products/product.asp?id=21009
Im having problems with noise but i am waiting to get that sorted.
http://www.greydevilindustries.com/products/product.asp?id=21009
Im having problems with noise but i am waiting to get that sorted.
FF 182, K5 GSX-R1000
Id put money on you regreting a purchase from him, it has been show over and over again, ask on some other forums such as passionford.
No doubt he knows his stuff and does a decent product for a decent price, been around for years but never sorted his customer service.
Some interesting points.
But..
I doubt I 'need' 4 pots. I doubt I 'needed' to spend 3.5k getting an extra 20bhp out of my engine. I doubt I 'needed' to spend 1k on coilovers.
At the end of the day if it saves a few kg's of unsprung weight, I get some evil looking brakes out of it and I have 1k knocking about burning a whole in my pocket then why not?
Paul J thanks for the heads up, I will avoid them.
PYE21 I live near Coventry I wouldnt mind having a look if you are local enough.
I have also emailed GDI apparently they do the Brembo kit.
But..
I doubt I 'need' 4 pots. I doubt I 'needed' to spend 3.5k getting an extra 20bhp out of my engine. I doubt I 'needed' to spend 1k on coilovers.
At the end of the day if it saves a few kg's of unsprung weight, I get some evil looking brakes out of it and I have 1k knocking about burning a whole in my pocket then why not?
Paul J thanks for the heads up, I will avoid them.
PYE21 I live near Coventry I wouldnt mind having a look if you are local enough.
I have also emailed GDI apparently they do the Brembo kit.
The Wilwood kit uses the standard disk size (280mm I think) so will definately fit under any 16" wheels.
The Compbrake kit uses 295mm disks but fits under 15".
The Brembo kits use 308mm disks and only fit under 16" wheels.
Brian did not say that when I pm'd him yesterday!
My opinion for what its worth.
Running 4 pots on the standard disk size using a pad with a similar surface area too standard will not see much benefit.
Increasing the disk size reduces the amount of force required to stop the disk turning as the further away from the centre of the disk you go the easier it is to stop it. This reduce temperatures and increases stopping power.
A two piece disk also allows heat to dissipate quicker which also reduces temperature.
I hear what people are saying when they say you can lock the cars wheels with standard brakes so why do you need anything better. But even with some spirited driving on the road you are going to make the brakes hot which causes the performance to deteriorate.
I think a bigger brake setup gives you more consistent stopping power once you start pushing.
GDI I think it is £950+VAT
I've recently gone from standard to Brembo HC discs, Ferrodo DS2500 pads, braided lines and AP 5.1 fluid, on track they're great, don't see the need for 4 pots.
Turbos.
For one application...
Have you compared them to 4 pots? Maybe what you think is good could be better?
I had the same setup, and they were excellant to start with. But the more i got used to the performance and started 'pushing' them, the more flaws were shown up.
4 pots are 1000 times better, worth it just for the pedal feel imo.
Agreed!!!
all the talk of locking the wheels up etc, yes its true that standard setup can lock the wheels at say 20, 30, 40 mph but they wont do it at 100mph like a set of powerful 4 pots will.
Not that you want to be locking your wheels at those speeds mind!
Many people are quick to dismiss 4 pots when they have never tried them. And many dismiss them as a few 'experts' claim you dont need them.
But for the ultimate in braking power, in a clio, you cant beat a good set of 4 pots.
This isnt me trying to sell kits either, its just cold hard facts. The whole reason we had the kit made as at the time there was no 4 pot setup that would run behind 15 inch wheels.
carry on...
Not that you want to be locking your wheels at those speeds mind!
Many people are quick to dismiss 4 pots when they have never tried them. And many dismiss them as a few 'experts' claim you dont need them.
But for the ultimate in braking power, in a clio, you cant beat a good set of 4 pots.
This isnt me trying to sell kits either, its just cold hard facts. The whole reason we had the kit made as at the time there was no 4 pot setup that would run behind 15 inch wheels.
carry on...
GDI no longer supply the Bembo kit. I want a bigger disk so the Wilwoods are out.
Which leaves the compbrake kit. I am still waiting for info on the weight reduction and a reply to the email I sent you yesterday....
