advice on ecu options for turbo conversion

[simondavies89]

Hi, im going to be buying a used turbo kit this week for my 54 plate 182. it comes complete but without an ecu, ive heard people have run them without but i would rather get an ecu to make it all abit smoother. i was just after advice on what ecu's are out ther that would be good for the conversion. its only going to be a low pressure conversion and i dont want to spend a fortune on something that is too good for the job. any advice would be appreciated, cheers.

 

[scotty2hotty81]

Been covered a lot, you will need over a grand including mapping.

 

[Chip-mk1]

Omex makes a lot of sense, its pretty antiquated now but it still works well and there are LOADS of people who know how to map it well.

 

[simondavies89]

i was looking at them, im gona probably look for a second hand 1, i am useless when it comes to ecu's and the wiring looms so if i sound like an idiot im sorry but when it comes to getting a loom for the omex, is it universal or do i need one suited for the 182 and what do i need to look for because i dont no whats realy ment be semi assembled and so on.

 

[Chip-mk1]

Semi assembled means its got a plug on the ECU end, but you have to do the rest.

 

[simondavies89]

so im guessing thats the better route. what about the loom being universal? im giving it to a specialist to fit everything and dont want to find out ive bought the wrong loom or missing anything.

 

[Chip-mk1]

Yes its universal by virtue of the fact its just a load of wires and you have to make it fit.

Best bet is find who you want to fit it, then ask them what they wish for you to supply, rather than buy it first and hope its what they want!

 

[batesey]

Speak to chris at EFIparts mate, he's doing mine with an adaptronic ecu

 

[mi16chris]

Speak to chris at EFIparts mate, he's doing mine with an adaptronic ecu

There a great ecu for the money

 

[Chip-mk1]

Scoff is a good person to be talking to about a turbo F4R

 

[mi16chris]

Scoff is a good person to be talking to about a turbo F4R

I sound some one in Russia that looks to have cracked the stock clio ecu mate can't find a email for him tho

 

[simondavies89]

this is a list of the kit im buying second hand with mostly new parts, is ther anything extra you think i will need to get it running. ino you need an extra link pipe for the 182 but is ther anything else i will need to source and is evrything appropriate for the low compression option?

Garrett GT28rs
Log manifold (brand new)
Downpipe
All turbo gaskets (brand new)
Oil feed and return lines (brand new)
Forge T2 actuator (will throw in original actuator that came with the turbo set at .8 bar) (brand new)
Engine dynamics intercooler, black hard pipes, intercooler, air filter, all silicone bends w/ clips (brand new)
forge twin piston dump valve (brand new)
spark plugs NGK BCPR7ES (cooler running plugs) (brand new)
R26 injectors (blue tags)
Megane 225 map sensor (brand new)
Oil feed restrictor .8mm (brand new)
All studs and copper nuts for log manifold (brand new)

 

[simondavies89]

think il give k tec a call tomorow, cheers for all your help. hopefully il have it boosted soon ready for the summer.

 

[batesey]

you'll need to plumb in some water lines for the turbo, things like new manifold and sump gasket, new oil filter, coolant, nimbus heat shield to cover brake lines,

 

[simondavies89]

how much extra cost do you think im looking at

 

[batesey]

i'd say at least 1k for standalone ecu and mapping, then maybe 100quid of general bits and bobs

 

[Chip-mk1]

how much extra cost do you think im looking at

If you rock up with that lot at ktec and ask for help, at least a couple of grand I would think.

If you are trying to do a turbo conversion for sensible money, then I would think that KTEC is about the last place you'd want on the list, they arent really about budget conversion from what I have seen.

 

[simondavies89]

so the kits pretty much ther apart from the ecu, i live in cumbria so thers no chance il be driving that far south ha, i was just gona call them for advice on other possible parts i may need, just for more advice realy. thers a guy localy that evry1 swears by, deals with racing engines and 500+ bhp cars for a living with a dyno so ive asked him for a quote. do you think it would be worth getting the turbo reconditioned, ive been told its fine but if its not too much i thought it may be worth considering, maybe just the seals or having it checked over? or is it abit pricey?

 

[batesey]

so the kits pretty much ther apart from the ecu, i live in cumbria so thers no chance il be driving that far south ha, i was just gona call them for advice on other possible parts i may need, just for more advice realy. thers a guy localy that evry1 swears by, deals with racing engines and 500+ bhp cars for a living with a dyno so ive asked him for a quote. do you think it would be worth getting the turbo reconditioned, ive been told its fine but if its not too much i thought it may be worth considering, maybe just the seals or having it checked over? or is it abit pricey?

I plan on having mine rebuilt, looking at prices around £250 for a recon i think

 

[geznay]

Why not give rs tuning in Leeds a shout? Not too far from you?

 

[Chip-mk1]

so the kits pretty much ther apart from the ecu, i live in cumbria so thers no chance il be driving that far south ha, i was just gona call them for advice on other possible parts i may need, just for more advice realy. thers a guy localy that evry1 swears by, deals with racing engines and 500+ bhp cars for a living with a dyno so ive asked him for a quote. do you think it would be worth getting the turbo reconditioned, ive been told its fine but if its not too much i thought it may be worth considering, maybe just the seals or having it checked over? or is it abit pricey?

You mean Jdm?

Barnes corsa seems to work ok but the map they put on Gary hurnes nova was horrific. So seems to be a lottery. IMHO you would be better going to scoff.

 

[simondavies89]

yeh jdm, i havnt had any work done ther but ive heard he was good and didnt no of anywer else, who or wher is scoff? come to think of it my friends glanza got done ther and it was always having problems, cud of been his dodgy diy efforts tho

 

[Chip-mk1]

Scoff = EFIparts:

http://www.efi-parts.co.uk/engine-mapping.php

He's got a nutty renault 5 you might have seen on here or elsewhere, its about 700bhp and does 10s up the quarter

 

[simondavies89]

il take a look at them, do they just do mapping or instalation aswell? i havnt seen that renault 5 but it sounds dangerous ha. im goin to buy this turbo kit in an hour, 2-3 hour drive cross country, hope to have it ready for the summer. how do you know of jdm anyway, do u live in the north west?

 

[Chip-mk1]

Give Scoff a ring mate, he can do pretty much anything with a car, but if he doesnt want to do some bits of it or thinks it would make more financial sense for you to do it then Im sure he will tell you.

 

[simondavies89]

sounds good il give him a call some time soon, cheers.

 

[Scoff]

Thanks Chip,

Drop me an email Simon and I will go through the options with you.

Cheers, Chris

 

[Tunst]

Ul have to take me out in this when its done :rasp: id also reccomend Scoff over JDM tbh well worth the trip down there!

Edit: I could also give you a hand fitting too if needs be

 

[simondavies89]

il pop through that way when its all fitted. didnt notice u where from cockermouth origionaly.