we use a synchrometer these days Tone
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anyone ever ran weber 45`s on the 172?????
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we use a synchrometer these days Tone
182cup & 172 racecar
Pah, boys and your toys.
Will work just fine for peak power but won't get anywhere near the economy of a set of bodies.
Mtech sell a nodiz stand alone ignition controller that works well for this sort of thing to control the coilpack to give you mappable ignition, or better still use a proper adtermarket ecu but simply don't run the injectors from it.
the Vvt can be controlled using the aftermarket or you can actually do it quite simply with some seperate electronics, basically you need nothing more than a window switch for the throttle and rpm to implement basic Vvt control.
personally I would just go bodies, far superior.
Mtech sell a nodiz stand alone ignition controller that works well for this sort of thing to control the coilpack to give you mappable ignition, or better still use a proper adtermarket ecu but simply don't run the injectors from it.
the Vvt can be controlled using the aftermarket or you can actually do it quite simply with some seperate electronics, basically you need nothing more than a window switch for the throttle and rpm to implement basic Vvt control.
personally I would just go bodies, far superior.
Indeed, same one i use for balancing bodies as well, i think mine only cost me about 40 quid although was so long ago now I can't really remember.
Megane r26
Pretty much what we did on the golf we converted. Due to us only needing the ignition side of things. We ran mark 2 16v ecu an distributor with vacuum advance. Fairly easy really, just had to set the ignition timing an then the carbs took care of the fueling.
Evo 5 RS
Bit like putting a 50 inch flat screen 3D TV on a rare Edwardian dressing table. What's the point
(Would sound ace though)
(Would sound ace though)
Megane r26
Yeah with the vw's (an slot of other manufactures) you can seem to swap an change alot of stuff from other models to make it work, we saw really good results with this an it kept the costs down.
Only thing that cost us was some r/r time to fine tune it in the end.
Only thing that cost us was some r/r time to fine tune it in the end.
We did it on my mates Rally car nova, twin 45s on a 2.0 16v engine and running a 1600 dizzy with a modified curve.
Worked well for power, but no better than bodies would have and it was shocking on fuel, but that was about 10 years ago so bodies were lots more money back then.
Megane r26
Yeah the golf was shocking on fuel too, it was a friends car he just wanted me to help him out as he wasn't confident with some stuff.
I personally would have preferred bodies but he's one these old school carb freaks haha.
On first run it made 207bhp but the curve was all over place an low down it was really over fuelling.
When used in anger my mates nova was under 10mpg, throttle bodies for the same hard use gives about double that! And that WAS setup well too, if you just bolt them on and dont get the chokes and jets right they can be even worse, lol
Megane r26
Until we decreased the mainjet size ours was good as pissing neat fuel in at lower rpm's, it was fine higher up but the curve was all over the place an it was not really what I'd have considered driveable.
Its akin to having throttle bodies and only 3 entries in the fuel table, thats the problem, you can get it working ok in some places, but not everywhere you just dont have the required control.
Megane r26
Yeah thats exactly what I was saying to my friend, the fact the bodies will give you much more control over the fuelling.
I was very suprised at the results we got from a standard 100k engine that only made 150bhp from factory, the beauty of it is we brought the donor car for 300 quid took what we wanted an then sold it back to the guy for 200 quid so the cost of the engine was only 100 quid.
Shows how poor the standard inlet on them is.
Megane r26
yeah it really opened it up, not many people have put the abf in the mark one as obtaining an exhaust manifold that fits is expensive or hard work the kr conversions are much more popular.
182cup & 172 racecar
On the fuel subject, my Escort did 6-8mpg full chat!!!
182cup & 172 racecar
Had a BDA that was the same.
172 track thingy
A lad I work with ABF'd a mk1 caddy, it had profiled cams and carbs.
It RR'd at about 180bhp.
It drove really nice and was very quick, sounding amazing too, but I drank fuel like no tomorrow lol
Now he's got a 1.8T mk1 golf driver and the noise and fun has gone of the flowery caddy
New engines are boring! Lol
It RR'd at about 180bhp.
It drove really nice and was very quick, sounding amazing too, but I drank fuel like no tomorrow lol
Now he's got a 1.8T mk1 golf driver and the noise and fun has gone of the flowery caddy
New engines are boring! Lol
182cup & 172 racecar
I know, but people are sticking Vauxhall engines in them now, and sh1t like that.wtf!!
Price up a BDA/BDG and then an XE/Duratec and its easy to see why!
Not a lot TBH mate, all the bits for them are cheap, solid lifters for example are around 10% of the cost of for an F4R
Best 4 pot engine going pretty much, a world on from an XE.
172 track thingy
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110995092956?redirect=mobile
Just spotted this with a sorted BDG engine :S
SOOO much money for these now!
Just spotted this with a sorted BDG engine :S
SOOO much money for these now!
182cup & 172 racecar
Wish I still had mine.
172 track thingy
Wish I still had mine.
How come you got rid?
182cup & 172 racecar
Wife, kids, mortgage etc.
