Are Carbone Lorraine Pads really that disc hungry

[chrispy.clio]

Are Carbone Lorraine pads really that bad on your discs? I have read lots of threads saying they are great but eat discs.
I was just going to use them for tracks, how many trackdays will my discs last if i use them, (average braking trackdays).
I have Brembo Max discs

Cheers

 

[Adey.]

ive done 4 tracks and the ring + 8k road driving and i now need to replace my front disks, on the inside the groves are nearly non exsistent, on the second set of pads too. but worth every penny for the stopping power they give

 

[Inferno]

If they're anything like pf97's (and I believe they're very similar) then I got 5000 miles out of a set of disks.

 

[chrispy.clio]

Cool, thats good enough for me. I'l buy some now

 

[BRUN]

5000 miles from discs is a joke !

 

[drhowser]

have your discs cryo treated, they will last a good while longer.

 

[chrispy.clio]

I thought Kam racing was the cheapest place for them but they are like £8 more for the last time i looked? how do you get the discount?

 

[Inferno]

5000 miles from discs is a joke !

True, but the disks are pretty cheap and the pads will easily last 10,000+ miles depending on usage.

The spark show at night is interesting, but other road users don't like it. I couldn't deal with the brake dust issues in the long run.

Stopping power though was exceptional, I've never been more impressed by a set of brake pads.

All of the above is in refference to pf97's. Not tried the Carbone Lorraines.

 

[Fred@BTM]

3pairs of discs to 1 set of PF97 pads

 

[Icarus]

What discs? I've had 2900KM's from a set of 97's with discs still in decent health. We did two sets of 01 compounds to a set of discs in the 24 hour and regularily see two sets of 05's to a set of discs in general race use on the 197's,

Cheers
M

 

[Fred@BTM]

Brembo HC son

 

[Icarus]

Surely not! That's insane and doesn't match with what we've found on the X85's with HC's and a variety of PF pads. Was this wear related replacement or cracked/failed/cooked discs?

Cheers
M

 

[Fred@BTM]

nope, discs were fine, just completely on min

 

[Inferno]

nope, discs were fine, just completely on min

Same here.

 

[Dan R]

Why not just buy pagid blues?? what are u actually using the car for?

 

[Icarus]

Mental! Wonder what the difference is then? Okay X85s' have a few MM more disc diameter and therefore thermal mass etc but we've never see wear rates like that and from the brake circuit pressures and disc temps I can see that our drivers are actualy using them!

Wonder if the HC disc material spec differs between applications? Can't see why it would but its the only thing I can think. We did an entire 24 hour on one set of HC's with 01 compound and have run 97 compound in testing and a few races on the same set of discs that's three, maybe even four sets of pads!

Cheers
M

 

[Fred@BTM]

it wasn't just HC discs, we had some "special" Team Griffin grooved discs that were machined renault oe discs, that were also cryo treated, the inside pad (piston pad) would strip the discs of its groove, also the piston side pad always wears a lot more than the outer one

 

[Icarus]

I'm really interested to find out what was going on now - wonder if its a clamping load related issue. Only major difference between the X85 and 1*2 is the caliper.

I like stuff like this

Cheers
M

 

[Kam.]

The RC5 Carbone Lorraine pads are usually ok for wear rate on disks, but with the high friction co-efficient they will certainly wear disks faster than OE or budget pads. Disks with a high carbon content are recommended for these.

The RC6 Carbone Lorraine pads (race pad) are very harsh on disks and should only be used with disks with a very high carbon content such as the Brembo HC, Maxtorq Group N or OMP Group N disks. On standard disks you will see sparks off them at night as they will be chewed to bits.

Fred which compound pads were you using?


-Jon

 

[Fred@BTM]

PF97 as per the cup racers, its a standard feature of using those pads, never driven a car with brakes like that, they were ridiculous!!

good thing discs are cheap

 

[Icarus]

50 quid a pair = happy days ;-)

Still really interested to see what the reasons for the high wear rate was on the 1*2 cups with 97's though. Been over my data tonight and at one point we did three sets of 97's (okay to my wear limits) on a set of HC's on an X85 based car. Got to be pad load related.

Cheers
M