Been Away..High Mileage 172's?

[Moose4624]

HI Guys, havent been on here in awhile, but fair bit older now and i can realistically insure a 172

Basically, there seem to be alot of high mileage ones about, and im looking at one thats got 67k on the clock.

Just wanted to know, are high mileage 172's ok basically? Ie is there a high risk of things breaking/going wrong.

Anyone driving a high mileage renaultsport-please can i have some feedback!?

thanks all

 

[Alastair.]

as long as they have been looked after they are ok, there is a trophy on her 2005 model with 170k iirc

 

[daveski]

Since when was 67k high mileage?!

 

[Don]

If its around 67K in terms of mileage, just make sure that the Cambelt has been done...saves a few hundred quid.

A car with 10,000 miles can have taken more abuse than one with 100,000 miles.

My aunt bought a Fiesta which was 10 years old with 25,000 on the clock, and the first thing she had to do was replace the gearbox! High mileage can be off putting (to some), but don't let that be the 'be all and end all' for your decision. If it has been cared for, it doesn't matter what mileage it has.

 

[jordan172]

67k high miles??? wtf?

 

[Moose4624]

well it seemed high mileage for a frenchie!

But yeah, aside from the belts anything else that tends to go after say 60k?

 

[R20 CWH]

maintenance is key. check the major components thoroughly and look for play in the suspension bushes/ arms as much as you can.

 

[sideways danny]

Since when was 67k high mileage?!

67k high miles??? wtf?

well it seemed high mileage for a frenchie!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

They make best power when they get to around 100k BTW

No problem with a high miler if it's looked after

 

[TimR26]

Mileage isn't an issue if the car has been looked after properly. Fletcher's 172 is 120k+ still with original clutch and gearbox, used to be as quick as mine on 71k until I had JMS work their magic.

 

[Moose4624]

Ok well theres one only a few miles from me, at a dealers, on for 4.5k, 02 plate with 67k miles. Seems like there asking a fair bit over the odds, or is that just me?!

Last service was 65k, doesnt say wether its had te belts done or not..

 

[Don]

Ok well theres one only a few miles from me, at a dealers, on for 4.5k, 02 plate with 67k miles. Seems like there asking a fair bit over the odds, or is that just me?!

Last service was 65k, doesnt say wether its had te belts done or not..

If its 02, the belts 'should' have been done in 2007...£4.5 is too much for the age in my opinion. If you're getting finance through the garage, then you will have to do it...if you're going for a Bank Loan, then the world is your proverbial oyster.

My old cup was just shy of 100K before I wrote her off...and she still pulled like a train. just make sure its been serviced, has decent tyres/tread and give it a once over to make sure (if you're not sure, get a decent mechanic to look it over).

 

[_WILL_]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=499712

Looks very tidy and much cheaper than you were looking at!

 

[brisa4984]

172s... not worth the hassle

 

[Solar Shades Tinting]

ive got a nice low mileage car for sale if your after one.

 

[Hugo-]

172s... not worth the hassle

Elaborate?

 

[chrism09]

i had a 172 mk2 and it had 99,000 when i got it and i sold it at 107,000 and only had a full service done once and it was a gr8t car !

 

[chrism09]

172s... not worth the hassle

???? explain ????:dapprove:

 

[andyclio172]

I bought a 52 plate 172 with 86,000 on it recently. Car is mecahnically sound and cam with Full RENAULT service history. I needed to spend £250 on it to get it cosmetically right but I am a little fussy about my cars.

Mine only cost me £2450.00.

 

[brisa4984]

???? explain ????:dapprove:

172s coming up to 10 years old now. The majority of threads popping up in the last 6 mnths have been about engine mounts, engine knocking sounds, suspension knocking, cv boots splitting. gearboxes crunching 3 syncro, steering wheel has melted, right thrumb grip is bust.

They really are begining to fall apart. You can blag and say well hey its all part of maintenance but really not worth the hassle imo. Buy a ph2 and it will need some time soon, either a window regulator, engine mount change.. exhaust change, relay change, new steering wheel, clutch, etc.. the way with french is really.. buy 1 year old run it for 2-3 years and sell before the cambelt service is due and s**t starts falling apart.

 

[TimR26]

What do you expect? Over time parts will wear out and need to be replaced.

 

[Sanders]

What do you expect? Over time parts will wear out and need to be replaced.

+1 Especially being french

 

[brisa4984]

What do you expect? Over time parts will wear out and need to be replaced.

agree but its the frequency, degree of wear and the rate at which some of these things go. If the op is happy with it that fact then all the best. He was asking what to look out for and ive told him the most common likely things that go wrong. Even if you buy a "mint" example, stuff will need doing. A newer car will obviously require less if not anything. Advice will be to buy a 197.

 

[brisa4984]

when i bought my 172 i orginally wanted to get an r5gtt. after looking at a few examples and going through their problems it just didnt make economical sense due to age

 

[TimR26]

Fair enough by a newer car with a warranty but you'll end paying for that in depreciation. Swings and roundabouts IMO

 

[andyclio172]

you do make some valid points. Things do wear over age. To me it is all part and parcel of running a car. You never have your hand out of your pocket. :approve:

I would rather have a 172 or 182 any day over a 197. The 197 does not do it for me. Only personal opinion though.

 

[Don]

172s coming up to 10 years old now. The majority of threads popping up in the last 6 mnths have been about engine mounts, engine knocking sounds, suspension knocking, cv boots splitting. gearboxes crunching 3 syncro, steering wheel has melted, right thrumb grip is bust.

They really are begining to fall apart. You can blag and say well hey its all part of maintenance but really not worth the hassle imo. Buy a ph2 and it will need some time soon, either a window regulator, engine mount change.. exhaust change, relay change, new steering wheel, clutch, etc.. the way with french is really.. buy 1 year old run it for 2-3 years and sell before the cambelt service is due and s**t starts falling apart.

agree but its the frequency, degree of wear and the rate at which some of these things go. If the op is happy with it that fact then all the best. He was asking what to look out for and ive told him the most common likely things that go wrong. Even if you buy a "mint" example, stuff will need doing. A newer car will obviously require less if not anything. Advice will be to buy a 197.

when i bought my 172 i orginally wanted to get an r5gtt. after looking at a few examples and going through their problems it just didnt make economical sense due to age

To be fair though, a mate of mine has a 2.0 Tdi Audi A3 on an 05 plate, and he has spent a shedload of money due to work that was needed...he had to replace the whole fuel system a year ago, then there have been suspension issues, etc. he has said he will never pay the premium for an Audi over say a Seat, and that is why when he is getting a new car, he is going for Seat.

So its not just French stuff that goes wrong. Plus, you can't grumble with what you get for the price...(when you think about it).

 

[andyclio172]

clio sports are in my opinion the best value for money buys that you can get. You get a lot of stuff on them and they look nice as standard.

 

[nth]

i can see where bris is coming from, regardless of ''maintenance'' it is a wear and tear issue; most owners will tend to focus on the more prominant issues, such as cambelt etc allowing other issues to continue to deteriorate, which will inevitably have to be sorted at the expense of the new owner. I suppose you get what you pay for and in all honesty 172s can be bought for around 3-4k, at the end of the day, you get what you pay for and 9/10 the condition of the car is reflected in price.

 

[brisa4984]

To be fair though, a mate of mine has a 2.0 Tdi Audi A3 on an 05 plate, and he has spent a shedload of money due to work that was needed...he had to replace the whole fuel system a year ago, then there have been suspension issues, etc. he has said he will never pay the premium for an Audi over say a Seat, and that is why when he is getting a new car, he is going for Seat.

So its not just French stuff that goes wrong. Plus, you can't grumble with what you get for the price...(when you think about it).

indeed, for 3k the enjoyment these things can bring is pretty gud. two sides to a coin. nth made a good point.

 

[Fletcher]

Mileage isn't an issue if the car has been looked after properly. Fletcher's 172 is 120k+ still with original clutch and gearbox, used to be as quick as mine on 71k until I had JMS work their magic.

Hai

Like Tim said above, my car is on 120k+ now (currently doing 18- 20k a year!) and is still on the orginal box, clutch and pulls like a train.....

The only reason your bus is pulling on mine Tim is the higher ron fuel yours is running on TBQH

172s... not worth the hassle

 

[TimR26]

Hai

Like Tim said above, my car is on 120k+ now (currently doing 18- 20k a year!) and is still on the orginal box, clutch and pulls like a train.....

The only reason your bus is pulling on mine Tim is the higger ron fuel yours is running on TBQH

Higger ron fuel FTW :rasp:

 

[domjolly]

A second hand High mileage 172's are not any more of a concern than a low mileage second hand 197!! or any other car for that matter, depends how it has been treated which is the gamble with all second hand cars, just need to find a looked after one with the major work done cambelt etc etc. my phase 1 172 is on 66k miles has original gearbox, clutch, suspension (until recently when i changed it for coilovers) and most other parts other than exhaust as thats made of cheese lol the only things that have needed changing are things that i regard as routine changes! just spend the most you can spend on the car your after and make sure you check it out enough and you will be fine.

 

[Fletcher]

Higger ron fuel FTW :rasp:

LOL... now EFA..

...On on more serious note, I need to do a few engine mods ASAP!

 

[Fletcher]

A second hand High mileage 172's are not any more of a concern than a low mileage second hand 197!! or any other car for that matter, depends how it has been treated which is the gamble with all second hand cars, just need to find a looked after one with the major work done cambelt etc etc. my phase 1 172 is on 66k miles has original gearbox, clutch, suspension babbageil recently when i changed it for coilovers) and most other parts other than exhaust as thats made of cheese lol the only things that have needed changing are things that i regard as routine changes! just spend the most you can spend on the car your after and make sure you check it out enough and you will be fine.

Yeah, I changed lots of standard parts at around the 80k mark..

All are now still in the garage still in perfect working order!

I'd much rather have a well looked after high mileage example, with a full service history then a low mileage nail.

 

[Russ_16v]

134k now, still on original clutch, gearbox, head gasket etc etc

Few little niggly things to do, but generally nothing very bad at all.

Makes good power, does 35mpg and does all what i need.

 

[domjolly]

Yeah, I changed lots of standard parts at around the 80k mark..

All are now still in the garage still in perfect working order!

I'd much rather have a well looked after high mileage example, with a full service history then a low mileage nail.

+1 and everyone knows 172 super car slayers lol

 

[Rich_172]

ive just bought my 1st 172 last week. 03 plate with 51k on the clock. £3500. absolutely love it

 

[sideways danny]

172s coming up to 10 years old now. The majority of threads popping up in the last 6 mnths have been about engine mounts, engine knocking sounds, suspension knocking, cv boots splitting. gearboxes crunching 3 syncro, steering wheel has melted, right thrumb grip is bust.

They really are begining to fall apart. You can blag and say well hey its all part of maintenance but really not worth the hassle imo. Buy a ph2 and it will need some time soon, either a window regulator, engine mount change.. exhaust change, relay change, new steering wheel, clutch, etc.. the way with french is really.. buy 1 year old run it for 2-3 years and sell before the cambelt service is due and s**t starts falling apart.

I've owned, run, and worked on french cars for 11 years now. The mk2 ph2 is light years ahead of cars 10 years before. Renault have really made big improvements, Clios go wrong no more than most things now. You'll notice transversely that German cars have reduced in build quality on a similar scale. No make is perfect, mechanical parts break on anything. At least French cars have cheap parts when things do go wrong.

 

[Marc.]

I'd much rather pay the servicing/maintenance costs on a cheap Renault, than for a similarly-aged marque like Audi. They may be slightly more reliable, but you pay for it when you buy the car, and whenever you enter a Stealership to have it serviced.

 

[.Ben.]

172s coming up to 10 years old now. The majority of threads popping up in the last 6 mnths have been about engine mounts, engine knocking sounds, suspension knocking, cv boots splitting. gearboxes crunching 3 syncro, steering wheel has melted, right thrumb grip is bust.

They really are begining to fall apart. You can blag and say well hey its all part of maintenance but really not worth the hassle imo. Buy a ph2 and it will need some time soon, either a window regulator, engine mount change.. exhaust change, relay change, new steering wheel, clutch, etc.. the way with french is really.. buy 1 year old run it for 2-3 years and sell before the cambelt service is due and s**t starts falling apart.

All of the above have been replaced/ rectified on mine - An '03 FSH car, now on 88.5k.

A chat with Pete @ Auto Nation (new OE parts), the FS/ guides sections on here and a trip to JMS have resolved all of my issues for a very reasonable sum (compative cost: the price of some new dampers on my 330!).

Not bad, considering the fun that can be had.

To not 'trouble' yourself (LOL) with a 172 - for the reasons you cite - is to miss a brilliant, fun, *cheap* car...