i think a lot of it comes down to = what do you want from it and what mods you have got.
you could get between 5-15 bhp (mods depending)?
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i think a lot of it comes down to = what do you want from it and what mods you have got.
you could get between 5-15 bhp (mods depending)?
As in higher top end, better low end or smooth out the power delivery ?
172/1.2/E30
How can you have a wideband display if you are using a narrowband sensor? Narrowbands can't give you an exact afr value.
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
I did it for this very reason and it's the best waste of several grand I've ever spent. Never had a cold Fillet Burger since. I have to confess that it has nothing at all to do with the sheer driving fun a well-setup ITB'd Clio provides, whether on track or favourite stretches of back road. Why waste money for those reasons?! LOL!
Of course I jest, but I don't think many folks are in a position to spend £3k to just show off to mates?!?!?
If they are then fair play to them!
172/1.2/E30
Plan on a few track days a year once i get the suspension refreshed etc etc, but i want ITBs for the noise and low down power increase, and purely because i can. Stupid question but are ITBs MOT legal?? I cant see why not but never know. As you all seem to have had them you are the best people to ask
Cheers Danny, since il be getting mine from you i expect it will be all fine
Do you do an iTB setup? if not and i was going to source all the parts myself what do i need? Parts list or direct me to a place i can get a list
How much do you charge for a walk in, walk out service? i.e I give you the car and you fit the iTB's and do all mapping ?
Jesus really? How do I have a wideband display with a narrowband?
Because their is a narrowband lambda in the 182 manifold connected to the omex and a wideband lambda before the sports cat connected to a display on the dash
Because you can is EXACTLY the reason to do it
And yeah mines been mapped so well it actually flies through the emissions tests with emissons lower than it had standard!
I've got a sports cat on mine but you can just keep the standard exhaust system
Because their is a narrowband lambda in the 182 manifold connected to the omex and a wideband lambda before the sports cat connected to a display on the dash
Plan on a few track days a year once i get the suspension refreshed etc etc, but i want ITBs for the noise and low down power increase, and purely because i can. Stupid question but are ITBs MOT legal?? I cant see why not but never know. As you all seem to have had them you are the best people to ask
Because you can is EXACTLY the reason to do it
And yeah mines been mapped so well it actually flies through the emissions tests with emissons lower than it had standard!
I've got a sports cat on mine but you can just keep the standard exhaust system
It'll work out about £3k give or take once filter, radiator and fan options are worked out. More if you want cams at the same time obviously
Would cams be cheaper but offer similar performance ? Just don't sound as nice
So debating between cams and iTB's depends on where and how you want the power.
Evo 5 RS
Get both. Throttle bodies trump cams every time. Totally transform the car if done right. People that say they're not worth it are either A. Poor. Or B. Just don't know what they're talking about or care about pub talk figures. Or more understandably prefer boost which is a different kettle of fish altogether.
You need to drive all the options before you decide for yourself.
You need to drive all the options before you decide for yourself.
LMFAO yes you have to be poor to think that putting £3k ITB's on a £1500 car is a bit daft when for that money you could go and buy an evo 6, or an integra type r, or any number of better handling cars with lsd's and more power to start with?
Evo 5 RS
Who the f*ck would want an Evo 6. You ever tried running one? I'd take a throttle bodied Mk2 over both cars. If you wanted an Integra for the money you should of bought one in the first place. Just FYI, they respond even better to ITBS
LOL I know DC2 on bodies - yum.
I bought my Clio cos it was a cheap 106 replacement and I didn't plan on modding it. But then started buying bits until got out of hand and ended up a pretty good spec.
If I was starting from scratch - I wouldn't spend £9k again building my car - there's a LOT better cars for that money these days.
I bought my Clio cos it was a cheap 106 replacement and I didn't plan on modding it. But then started buying bits until got out of hand and ended up a pretty good spec.
If I was starting from scratch - I wouldn't spend £9k again building my car - there's a LOT better cars for that money these days.
clio 182 sport
i would rather a dc5 yeh not a dc2 anymore use to like them, still like them but just wouldnt buy one.
172 Race Car
Bodies on an otherwise stock engine is a very nice setup. As has been said you may get similar maximum figures for willy waving with just cams but stick the power higher up. itb's really change the character of the car and win hands down imo. Added together are quite special tho but bodies then cams imo
172 Race Car
This^?
172 track thingy
Renault Clio 172 Jenvey Throttle Bodies and OMEX ECU Setup
http://bit.ly/10MfpUK
Doesn't seem too bad of a price for a basic setup really!
http://bit.ly/10MfpUK
Doesn't seem too bad of a price for a basic setup really!
172 track thingy
If you get them 2nd hand then I'm pretty sure they won't loose much money if you wanted to take them off and sell them on.
Donny_Dog
ClioSport Club Member
Jim's rejects
I did.
Buying the boddies is the cheap and easy part.
But.. 2nd hand... whilst the concept is fine (and I got mine from a reputable guy... well as reputable as you can safely know someone from what he/she/it types on a web page..) and the boddies were advertised as 'complete' - there were fittings missing, TPS missing and still some diy to do after all the parts are removed from his 'well packaged' solution.
Not that I'm bitter about it or anything, but yeah in concept, 2nd hand is cheaper.
Then comes the ECU, mapping (also the labour for fitting if you don't do it) blah blah blah. Even just the hassle of getting it to the place to be mapped is a pain.
So, all said and done - £3k for a solution, isn't bad value IMO. Its just that would spend that elsewhere - and from experience, not on ITB's.
But its all IMO - so gives a who fcuk. If you know what I mean.
172 track thingy
Ye I suppose that's the thing, unless you get really lucky and get 100% of the stuff needed then you will need to fiddle about.
And that's the thing if I start collecting parts bit by bit over time, it won't be a huge outlay all at once and then I will prob buy an ecu and have it put together at the end. And when I say a while I mean at least a year possible a few lol
I don't want to get rid of it so it would be worth it to me but I also do look at it as this is a lot of money for not an amazing amount of stuff lol
Donny_Dog
ClioSport Club Member
Jim's rejects
That's a fair assessment.
Mine is a toy, so I buy bits for it as part of a hobby (an expensive one). I also like to keep browsing auctions and hope to pick up parts along the way, so not too dissimilar there either.
It's just that the n/a benefits are small for the outlay, but as I say to my wife (well along with a few other choice words) "it's not like I'm down the pub every night" and throwing money at my hobby keeps me off the streets.
I'm a tramp, you see.
172 track thingy
Ye that's it tbh it's exactly the same for me, I enjoy building up what I have and I do go out spending stupid money on drinking and what not.
And the same for my missus but I also throw in that I'm spending money on her with buying her an engagement ring so I need to treat myself along the way lol
And the same for my missus but I also throw in that I'm spending money on her with buying her an engagement ring so I need to treat myself along the way lol
As people have said 2nd hand really doesn't help
I paid £1600 for Jenveys + manifold + linkage + fuel rail + throttle cable + ph1 throttle pedal + filters + 90mm trumpets + wiring loom + omex 600
But the little bits add up so quickly, getting a PROPER filter and carbon backin plate was £150 ish, then new nuts and bolts to fit it all was £20/30, mapping £300,
I think with everything fitted and mapped and me happy it cost about £2300 but I'm still not happy with the loom as someone else has made it quite badly - so £3k for a brand new drive in/drive out solution is really not that bad
I paid £1600 for Jenveys + manifold + linkage + fuel rail + throttle cable + ph1 throttle pedal + filters + 90mm trumpets + wiring loom + omex 600
But the little bits add up so quickly, getting a PROPER filter and carbon backin plate was £150 ish, then new nuts and bolts to fit it all was £20/30, mapping £300,
I think with everything fitted and mapped and me happy it cost about £2300 but I'm still not happy with the loom as someone else has made it quite badly - so £3k for a brand new drive in/drive out solution is really not that bad
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