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Best Value ISP for Gaming + General Browsing
- Thread starter Brand86
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Linkage? Can't see VM offering anything more than FTTC?
CBR1000RR Fireblade
Sheds some light on it;
http://www.broadbandwatchdog.co.uk/ftth.php
A few places already have it, it depends on what area your in.
In south Yorkshire you can have either ADSL 2+ with most providers and VDSL through the digital region ISP's
No FTTH for me just yet but I'll be happy when my FTTC order is installed in the next couple of weeks.
http://www.broadbandwatchdog.co.uk/ftth.php
A few places already have it, it depends on what area your in.
In south Yorkshire you can have either ADSL 2+ with most providers and VDSL through the digital region ISP's
No FTTH for me just yet but I'll be happy when my FTTC order is installed in the next couple of weeks.
another vote for BE here (or o2 as i am with, who use BE for their LLU service)
I get 20mb from my line (and an amazing ping), its been down probably twice in 2 1/2 years for an hour or so, customer service is great, UK based!
Plus i get a discount as i'm with o2 for m mobile too.
with BT and most other operators, good luck getting decent speed in peak evening hours, o2 LLU never traffic shape or restrict you, nor do they block any sites.
I get 20mb from my line (and an amazing ping), its been down probably twice in 2 1/2 years for an hour or so, customer service is great, UK based!
Plus i get a discount as i'm with o2 for m mobile too.
with BT and most other operators, good luck getting decent speed in peak evening hours, o2 LLU never traffic shape or restrict you, nor do they block any sites.
Yeah, your link proves VM only do FTTC. BT are trialling FTTH IIRC
Whilst that link estimates 10-15bil, I doubt we'll see change from 50-60bil once all is said and done.
It's not going to happen for a while
Proper business lines are still expensive tbh, because you pay for the lack of contention, proper support and resiliency.
Darren S
ClioSport Club Member
Hopefully you'll find them alright, m8. I'm currently on that and have no issues at all, tbh.
D.
Darren S
ClioSport Club Member
About the same time we started to ditch 256k leased-lines at work. From Blackburn head office to Birmingham depot - approx £10.5k per year.
Slow as feck (well, not really for the time) but MASSIVELY reliable. If we had one drop out per circuit per year, that was unusual.
D.
Have they got special Openreach engineers who know fibre, or are they trying to teach the old monkeys new tricks?
A bit of both.
They should be able to test the lines remotely when you ring the call centres, they can't do that as they dont have the infrastructure in place (One would of thought that would be quite an important thing to do!!!). They have a few systems in place for the copper/LLU services (whoosh)
They are relying on engineers with handheld OTDR testers (if they even use OTDR) to do the repairs by driving up and down and checking the line randomly.
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I haven't really read into FTTH/FTTP from a consumer aspect but it will be interesting on how BT via Openreach actually go about providing the fibre.
Knowing how much it costs to blow fibre through to a premiss from a commercial aspect it surely has to come down to home owner/user to pay the ECC's to actually get the fibre into the house. Unless they have other methods of delivery but as far as I know all current delivery of fibre is via underground and Openreach would need provide specialist ducts and tubing to blow the fibre through.
Knowing how much it costs to blow fibre through to a premiss from a commercial aspect it surely has to come down to home owner/user to pay the ECC's to actually get the fibre into the house. Unless they have other methods of delivery but as far as I know all current delivery of fibre is via underground and Openreach would need provide specialist ducts and tubing to blow the fibre through.
I know how they do it..for FFTC anyway, It might not be the "correct" way of doing it but this is how the spinoff of Marconi do it around here....
They pull the old copper cable out from one end, and attach the fibre to the other end thus pulling it through. They have big sod off vans that come out to "pull" the old cable out at the cab end.
They pull the old copper cable out from one end, and attach the fibre to the other end thus pulling it through. They have big sod off vans that come out to "pull" the old cable out at the cab end.
I had an Openreach engineer come out at work (2 of our lines in are BT) and that's all he had, IIRC
Welcome to Sky...
According to them we are getting up to 8mb/s
Hmmm Now I can understand a drop down to say 4mb/s but under a mb your having a laugh? Sh*t imho
According to them we are getting up to 8mb/s
Hmmm Now I can understand a drop down to say 4mb/s but under a mb your having a laugh? Sh*t imho
Trouble is its under my dads jurisdiction I have no say. He gets all his phone, tv and internet with Sky so he saves. Hes happy with the internet for some reason :/
Clio 197 F1
99% chance that something in your home is causing that. Things to consider:
First off try putting your computer into the router with an Ethernet cable. If the speed is fine then you know it's a wireless issue and in that case just try changing the channel on the router. If that fails then consider these things;
How many telephone sockets? Are they all filtered? Is the router in the master socket?
I would also recommend removing your faceplate from your master socket and plugging the router directly into the test socket with an alternative micro filter.
I can't stress enough to try an alternative micro filter, the amount of BB issues that are just down to a faulty micro filter are insane!
So is the coax that feeds to your house, from that fibre in the cabinet
Not right.
The coax cable used in DOCSIS networks has much better shielding than the unshielded twisted copper cabling used in ADSL networks.
Because of this reason electrical interference causes many more transmission problems in ADSL networks resulting in sync speeds that are much lower. ADSL networks will never achieve the speeds of DOCSIS networks unless the presentation to the premises is physically replaced.
All computers are on the Ethernet (bar one in the shed on wireless)
There is a socket wired from the main telephone socket through to the dining room where the router is and a filter is on that socket
There is 3 telephone sockets, 2 connected to the main socket via hard wiring to the board behind the faceplate. (one is unused, the other leads to the dining room to the router)
Suppose I could try a new filter on the socket in the dining room, the master socket (by the front door) is unfiltered the only thing plugged into there is the house phone
Nick
Clio 197 F1
That's the problem, get a filter on that master socket. In the meantime remove that phone from the master socket for the time being and I bet the speed increases straight away.
Trouble is mate,
The phone in the master socket is the master base phone for all the other phones in the house (wireless ones) so without that plugged in no one can ring us lol.
There is a filter in the socket in the dining room the wire to the dining room socket is wired directly into the board inside the master socket and a hole cut in the casing and it run through from there so a filter on the master socket wouldn't affect anything.
Nick
The phone in the master socket is the master base phone for all the other phones in the house (wireless ones) so without that plugged in no one can ring us lol.
There is a filter in the socket in the dining room the wire to the dining room socket is wired directly into the board inside the master socket and a hole cut in the casing and it run through from there so a filter on the master socket wouldn't affect anything.
Nick
Cheers guys I'll have a bash!
Be/o2?
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b****cks. We've just switched to Sky from Virgin...
Mind you, what you're showing there is better than we were getting from Virgin. 0.1Mb/s to 0.2Mb/s and a ping to the google servers of over 2 seconds. 3 engineer visits, dozens of phonecalls and 3 months of waiting and we finally decided to call it a day.
It doesn't matter who I go with I'm gonna be OLO
I wanted to go LLU as it would be cheaper. Annoyingly The exchange in the next town has sky/be etc is LLU
I've been on sky for a few years, it's gone down once and when I called they couldn't work out there was a problem in my whole area, so they decided it must be my router
they the decided to send me a new router which locked out my current one via MAC address... so when the outage was fixed my router was dead and it took about a week for the new'en to appear.
I'm going to have to check all the house phones for filters as im sure we only have the filter where the router is plugged in hmmm
they the decided to send me a new router which locked out my current one via MAC address... so when the outage was fixed my router was dead and it took about a week for the new'en to appear.
I'm going to have to check all the house phones for filters as im sure we only have the filter where the router is plugged in hmmm
They sent us a net gear router with their own sh*tty firmware! So we swapped it to a belkin, got a piece of software that extracts the username and password from the netgear router and put them into the belkin, jobs a good one.
The netgear one just kept cutting out every half and hour or so
Nicj
The netgear one just kept cutting out every half and hour or so
Nicj
Clio 197 F1
Hi mate
I used to work in their technical support department. They use C&W to provide the network. You will no doubt get a Thomson TG580 router which is possibly one of the worst routers going. If you're lucky you may get a Technicolor TG582n. Just a note that the unlimited download is actually 100gb but for the vast majority of people it is enough. When I was there they had no system in place to enforce this anyway, but that may have changed.
Now working in technical support I only ever saw the bad things so my opinion is not really going to count. However if you check the reviews online they are not rated highly... But neither are most broadband providers.
Remember that whoever you go with (with the exception of Virgin) they all use the same copper cable from your house to your exchange. And the biggest factor that will affect your speed and performance is the quality and length of this copper cable.
All I will say is that if you do go with Tesco, get a different router as these caused the most issues for us.
If you need any more information just let me know
Thanks
CBR1000RR Fireblade
I recently had plusnet fibre installed.
I'd recommend this to anyone who, like myself, uses the Internet for browsing, shopping, online gaming and the occasional download. Their priced competitively too, I'm on the extra fibre package and it's £16.50 a month IIRC. Very good value for money IMO.
I'd recommend this to anyone who, like myself, uses the Internet for browsing, shopping, online gaming and the occasional download. Their priced competitively too, I'm on the extra fibre package and it's £16.50 a month IIRC. Very good value for money IMO.
Yeah just read some reviews, Tesco doesn't score too highly so guess I'll just pay the bit extra and go with Virgin Media. Just liked the idea of no data cap but think I should be fine with 40gb anyway.
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