Bilstein B14 v's BC coilovers

[incy-spider]

About to purchase one of these kits, have been told the build quality of the Billies are awesome and give a great feel both on and off the track, some say can be a bit soft... Have been told the valving is superior to the BC but the cons are no damping adjustment and the height is adjusted by the spring platform unlike the BC which allows adjustment by shortening/lengthening the actual length of the coil over leaving the spring well alone. Also had damping adjustment... aaaaaahhhh really stuck which way to go.

I use my car mainly on the road but try to get over to the ring as much as I can, going in June again, currently run Koni adjustables with eibach sportlines..

Any help?

 

[Chi]

Weeksy has a contract at GAZ and prices are great. Height and damping adjustable. .

 

[Weeksy]

Fitted my kit today!

 

[ThomasBrentnall]

MicKPM

 

[Cub.]

I have found my Bilsteins excellent, done a fair few miles now and they have been great on road and track. To give you an idea of ride height and them working hard on track a couple of photos;

I have heard the BCs are very good, but never been in a car with them, so can't comment on that front I am afraid.

 

[mccabe172]

This experience was not with a clio but with an mx5. Bilsteins are well built, mine were fitted over 5 years ago and still in good condition when I came to sell. I had them set-up professionally twice, the second time being night and day compared to first set up. So I would say make sure you get them set up well to suit you. With saying that if the bc allow adjustability I d be interested to see how they work.

gaz wise, lots of mx5 owners run these. They are used in various mx5 race series as the control suspension component - also well made.

 

[Paprika123]

I loved my bilsteins. In reality how often are you going to adjust them? Not very much.

 

[Chi]

I adjust my track car at every event

 

[Dan@SJM]

Bilsteins are very good for the money. Leagues above the likes of Gaz and SPAX. The key to getting them good is corner weighting. My Monaco was on bilsteins, RARB, and PE2's. And caught and out handled a cup that was caged and on r888's with Gaz suspension at Bedford last year.

 

[incy-spider]

Bilsteins are very good for the money. Leagues above the likes of Gaz and SPAX. The key to getting them good is corner weighting. My Monaco was on bilsteins, RARB, and PE2's. And caught and out handled a cup that was caged and on r888's with Gaz suspension at Bedford last year.

Nice, with corner weighting would it completely throw it out if I take a passenger?

 

[Chi]

Not if you corner weight it with a passenger

 

[Dan@SJM]

Nice, with corner weighting would it completely throw it out if I take a passenger?

Not massively, it would put it out but noticeable? questionable.

 

[incy-spider]

Thanks mate

 

[incy-spider]

I have found my Bilsteins excellent, done a fair few miles now and they have been great on road and track. To give you an idea of ride height and them working hard on track a couple of photos;

I have heard the BCs are very good, but never been in a car with them, so can't comment on that front I am afraid.

Nice one

 

[Chi]

incy-spider if your over this way at efi call in and try billsteins and gaz

 

[MarkX]

Coming from the Evo world, BCs are absolute trash, poor performance and just don't last, famous for knocking. I wouldn't take them as a gift!

 

[incy-spider]

I doubt I'll ever be up that way again unless I need anymore mapping!

 

[Chi]

Coming from the Evo world, BCs are absolute trash, poor performance and just don't last, famous for knocking. I wouldn't take them as a gift!

Willo has experience from his scooby amd rates them enough to put on his cup.

 

[Ph1 Tom]

minto has BCs on mickkPM old car. That handles well.

But Gaz are good for the money, £475 for a full set of coilovers all round. Weeksy will sort you out.

I was in this situation recently and went for the AST sportline 1, should be a couple of weeks I hope. Had I not gone for them I'd probably have bought the Gaz.

 

[Chi]

Beauty of Gaz is the fact they are cheap to refurb and turnaround time is good.. One of the lads got ASTs and although he loves them hes spent so much time taking them on and off and back to have work done its not funny..

 

[Dan@SJM]

I doubt I'll ever be up that way again unless I need anymore mapping!

You're welcome to come and try my supercharged one on bilsteins.

 

[incy-spider]

Where are you?

 

[Dan@SJM]

Street, somerset

 

[MarkX]

@Willo has experience from his scooby amd rates them enough to put on his cup.

So many failures on MLR, back up was terrible too, I've been in an evo 8 with them and they were crashy and crude, back to back with some decent suspension really shows them up, lots of poor reviews in the USA too.....

 

[Chi]

Not many people using them so good to have feedback.. MarkX

 

[Willo]

Yep. Loved the BCs on my Scoob and livin them on the Clio.

Never had an issue in 5yrs and they have been on around 30 track days and sprints in the Scoob and 5 track days and sprint in the Clio so far

 

[Nick172Cup]

AST's
Bilsteins
FK Konigsports/KW V2's.
Standard shocks with eibach Prolines.

From my experience of Clio coilovers, this is all I'd go for now. Anything else isn't worth wasting your time with.

Nick

 

[incy-spider]

Thanks for all the input guys, was pretty set on the billies from the start and seeing this has given me more confidence with the decision. Will review once fitted.

If anyone wants my Koni adjustables and Eibach sportlines drop me a PM £300 in very good condition... Will put them up for sale in the for sale section as soon as I get some pics and make the order for the billies. Cheers

 

[Somnambulist]

I know its been two years since this thread has been touched, but I've got the same conundrum. How did you get on in the end @incy-spider? Recommend the Billies?

 

[Jimbob 2705]

Also interested in this!

 

[RMDavis]

I've had Bilstein's on mine now for a couple of months, and I would easily reccomend them to anyone. The ride is superb perfect for the road, as for track I've yet to try them out. CSF will be their first outing, and I hope they wont disappoint as I've heard a few people say they can be a little soft for track work.

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[incy-spider]

I know its been two years since this thread has been touched, but I've got the same conundrum. How did you get on in the end @incy-spider? Recommend the Billies?

Yes 100% for the ring... I can't comment on track days here but imagine they could be a tad on the soft side

 

[incy-spider]

@dann2707 maybe more helpful

 

[dann2707]

@dann2707 maybe more helpful

I was not apparently! Didn't get your tag haha

Ive done a fair few track days in the billies now and they're pretty decent! As said though a little soft but not bad by any means.

For a car that does 80% daily driving and the rest track they are incredible. They're comfy, great on long journeys and feel like they're made well and built to last. With all my other handling mods they really are perfect for a fast Road car.

My advice would be to get coilovers covers for them though as I haven't and they are looking really tired.

 

[incy-spider]

I was not apparently! Didn't get your tag haha

Ive done a fair few track days in the billies now and they're pretty decent! As said though a little soft but not bad by any means.

For a car that does 80% daily driving and the rest track they are incredible. They're comfy, great on long journeys and feel like they're made well and built to last. With all my other handling mods they really are perfect for a fast Road car.

My advice would be to get coilovers covers for them though as I haven't and they are looking really tired.

Wonder if anyone can refurb them? You'll love them at the ring mate, will be interesting to see if you'll get the spring on the o/s/f completely compressed and banging on the carousel... Was my only gripe!!

 

[Jekyll]

Just to add confusion....

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