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Boosted 182's ?



  Inferno 182
Hi folks names Gary.

Used to own a 182Cup in RB. Loved it and thinking of coming back to a 182. Problem is, not sure I can live without forced induction these days. Any boosted Clios on the forum? Any guidance, advice or opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Gee.
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
You supercharged yours, big difference bear! The Turbo ones last weeks. I love your thing!
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
Oh calm down you. I'm sure you see my point. It's well known for it to happen.
 
  Trophy,R26,GSXR1000
I know what you mean Gally, there was a time when turbo conversions were sold as the ultimate upgrade for a Clio. The truth is most drove like utter cr@p, everyone wanted it done cheap so they would scrimp on ECU, intercoolers, fuel system etc... Once you throw in a few gearbox issues its enough to ruin guys who are used to just jumping in and driving them.
 

Ricardos

ClioSport Club Member
  LY 200 EDC
I've had my Clio 2 years in April and supercharged since last May. Definitely consider supercharging, also consider what you're going to use the car for. It's not all about pub bhp figures in my opinion it's about real everyday driveability and living with someone that's modified everyday.

If and when you choose to go forced induction the biggest decision is ECU, my 2 pence and based on personal experience.... Go aftermarket, you think you'll save money mapping the stock ECU but what you lose out on is the potential to read and tweak the map anytime you see fit. For instance on my Adaptronic I can have a map e mailed to me from EFI Parts and load it up straight to the ECU, I then have the choice to flip between the 2 maps so say one for trackdays running slightly less power but good for constant wide open throttle then back to the original map. You probably know all this but the bigger picture is aftermarket pays dividends in the long run, there aren't many people that can map the stock ECU

What personally works for me going supercharged opposed to turbo:

You don't touch anything exhaust side, so no need for a turbo manifold, turbo link pipe, downpipe , turbo. Think of all those joins, all those nuts that could come loose (and more than once) and how hard it is to reach some of them tucked away down the back of the engine near the bottom.

Supercharger power is progressive, smooth, and couple with the F4R which likes to rev, the charger will keep on going. There's also no torque spikes when coming on boost like turbos so it's kinder to the gearbox, although it could be mapped out to be more progressive.

I'm running 262bhp and 220 ft/lbs torque, to reiterate that's about 90 more bhp and 70 more ft/lbs torque than a stock 182, on the road and useable everyday with a stock Valeo clutch.

http://www.cliosport.net/threads/ricardos-petrol-blue-supercharged-182-project.734722/page-9
 
  Inferno 182
Thanks Ricardo. I would likely favour a charger over turbo for the very reasons you highlight. My last car was running 350 on the turbo but I feel turboing would be too aggressive on the F4. I've also ran DTA in the past so I'm aware of the benefits of loading up saved maps. Obviously I'll need to do a bit more digging but if i like the car enough, I reckon your figures sound about just right for a daily.

I'll have a read through your thread later on but might PM you for advice if that's ok :)

Gary
 
Oh calm down you. I'm sure you see my point. It's well known for it to happen.

Pushing a car well beyond it's designed limits is bound to cause issues of some kind along the way. That adds to the thrill IMO.

I know what you mean Gally, there was a time when turbo conversions were sold as the ultimate upgrade for a Clio. The truth is most drove like utter cr@p, everyone wanted it done cheap so they would scrimp on ECU, intercoolers, fuel system etc... Once you throw in a few gearbox issues its enough to ruin guys who are used to just jumping in and driving them.

I agree with the gearbox issues as I have suffered one so far and I'm less confident with the gearboxes strength/limits now, but regarding the ECU and fuel system, I think the turbo conversion specialists that have anything about them have pretty much nailed this down now! Mine runs flawlessly on Adaptronic and a Ph1 fuel setup.
 


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