BP ULTIMATE 102 RON (couldn't resist)

[Weeman]

Unless renault put a turbo on the 192 i doubt it would make much differance what so ever, waste of money FTW

 

[ibrahim7]

i used this fuel last year for a bit and i thought it picks up better from lower down the rev range,it is over priced though,i would recommend just trying it.no its not in the mind

 

[Rich]

Did you lube up first or let them take you dry ?

 

[Sean_R27]

i'm running a k&n panel filter and it's remapped btw. It's all gone now, back to rubbish v-power

 

[Clio1.6Rxe]

Isn't an ECU on a car nowadays mapped for certain fuel?

yeh, cars in japan and east asia etc are normally set up for higher octance fuels

 

[polarbert]

Can the OP say: PLACEBO ?

:rofl:

 

[RobHardyUK]

Your ecu remapped or not isnt optimised for 102 ron. You wouldnt see near nil gain from putting 102 ron in it. Only benefit you would get is more mpg because the fuel is cleaner and would burn more efficently. And that mpg difference doesnt compensate the 100% more you paid!

 

[Revels]

Dont listen to this lot mate. They probably just cant afford it so theyre all jealous.

I did the same as you a few months ago and it was much faster! :approve:

If I lived closer id fill up with it all the time!!

 

[polarbert]

Jealous? Yes, thats exactly what it is. :rofl:

 

[Griff]

Tried it once myself.. I mowed the lawn in half the time it took before.

 

[Ali]

99 ron in tesco and octane booster. Done.

 

[aucky]

Isn't an ECU on a car nowadays mapped for certain fuel?

I think its controlled by the Variable Advance Spark Timing system.
The 'Knock' detection system senses the change in fuel and spark timing changes accordingly to be most effective.
Im only assuming renault has this?

 

[Steve]

Tried it once myself.. I mowed the lawn in half the time it took before.

 

[ClioTom182]

Tried it once myself.. I mowed the lawn in half the time it took before.

Thats good


But seriously to the OP a waste of what £50.... your ECU wouldn't of been mapped to run high Oct fuel so it wouldn't of made one jot of difference. :dead:

But least you can say you tried it.....

 

[RexinaTrophy]

I assume the people claiming 102 RON fuel will make no difference have categorical empirical evidence.

 

[mardell100]

Mate filled up his 200sx with the 102 think he stopped at about £85 not only raped by BP but raped by me on the twisties with the R26..... on 95Ron...! never put anything other than 95 in.

Waste of money unless highly tuned turbo car

 

[polarbert]

I assume the people claiming 102 RON fuel will make no difference have categorical empirical evidence.

Yes, obviously. Why is it so hard to understand that on this sort of car that petrol will make little or no difference? They state in the marketing stuff that it is for highly tuned race engines.

Its like having a panel filter. You might think it makes a difference but in fact the differences will be negligable unless you've had other things fitted to the car.

 

[R-Sport.]

I assume the people claiming 102 RON fuel will make no difference have categorical empirical evidence.

Yes, obviously. Why is it so hard to understand that on this sort of car that petrol will make little or no difference? They state in the marketing stuff that it is for highly tuned race engines.

Its like having a panel filter. You might think it makes a difference but in fact the differences will be negligable unless you've had other things fitted to the car.

Agreed on the highly tuned engines part-
I asked the question around usage of higher RON petrol & why it WAS important to use at least 97 RON on a highly tuned car-

the answer I got was - if your joe public driving around in between the normal revving bands of a car- like 1-4k revs then 95 ron will suffice all day long in any car, however its when you suddenly drop down a couple of gears & start revving the car close to redline, or maintaining full throttle for a long period-
The chances of blowing a piston are greatly increased with Sh*t fuel in these circumstances-

optimax all day long for me, although next time Im down towards the INN on the lake in Kent I may stick a tenners worth in just to see what it does-

S

 

[RexinaTrophy]

I have still haven't received categorical proof either way. A person's opinion is not proof. Hence why I find religious folk anathema.

 

[ForceIndia]

I have never put anything other than normal 95 ron in my car because it will make no difference atall on a 1.2 16v but 98/99 octain is suposed to be better in the Renaultsports so i presume 102 will be even better.

Won't have a significant effect, the 197's mapped for 98, so will run best on 98/99.

 

[alanc1000]

I have never put anything other than normal 95 ron in my car because it will make no difference atall on a 1.2 16v but 98/99 octain is suposed to be better in the Renaultsports so i presume 102 will be even better.

Won't have a significant effect, the 197's mapped for 98, so will run best on 98/99.

mine has a sticker in the cap that recommends both 95 and 98. I tried the 102 in my old 182 and deffo felt a difference.

 

[RexinaTrophy]

Won't have a significant effect, the 197's mapped for 98, so will run best on 98/99.

mine has a sticker in the cap that recommends both 95 and 98. I tried the 102 in my old 182 and deffo felt a difference.

Is your reg NG57 NEU?

 

[alanc1000]

mine has a sticker in the cap that recommends both 95 and 98. I tried the 102 in my old 182 and deffo felt a difference.

Is your reg NG57 NEU?

thats me!

 

[franx]

£2.55 a litre at silverstone today, i had to give it a go. Half filled the tank for the journey home and got a can full in the boot for those cold evenings when i wanna go for a "drive". All i can say is, SHE PULLS. Louder, raw note and noticeable quicker. Expensive experiment but a hell of a lot of fun

Henk Fastchip has also done some mapping for a German customer who loads up his tank with RON100.. was really good i heard.

I think this is the only way to get maximum benefit from the higher RON fuels; get a map to suit

 

[crazycup_racer]

So far 2 or 3 people have used it and said it was good! Now lets see a list of people who HAVE tried it and dont think it had an effect. This is typical CS, rant at something that weve never tried lol. Next time im at silverstone ill give it a tank full to see if it affect my lap times in anyway!

 

[aucky]

Isn't an ECU on a car nowadays mapped for certain fuel?

I think its controlled by the Variable Advance Spark Timing system.
The 'Knock' detection system senses the change in fuel and spark timing changes accordingly to be most effective.
Im only assuming renault has this?

+1 to myself =]

 

[ForceIndia]

EVO ran a fuel test few years ago. In the (turbo) golf gti, 105octane fuel gave 6 bhp more than BP ultimate, 4lbft less torque. In the M5 (NA 5l)it gave less power and torque than Ultimate/Optimax.
You expected to feel a difference, so you felt one. Placebo effect. Unless of course the 197 has a more sofisticated engine than the M5.

 

[ForceIndia]

I think its controlled by the Variable Advance Spark Timing system.
The 'Knock' detection system senses the change in fuel and spark timing changes accordingly to be most effective.
Im only assuming renault has this?

+1 to myself =]

I very much doubt it.

 

[Waitey]

You'd need to run at least a full tank through before the ECU and knock sensor advanced the timing.

So sticking half a tank in will do sod all.

 

[RexinaTrophy]

Is your reg NG57 NEU?

thats me!

That's my old car!! I bought it in Nov 07 and sold it to Steve at AllVehicles. I traded my Trophy for it. I hope you're enjoying it!

 

[aucky]

You'd need to run at least a full tank through before the ECU and knock sensor advanced the timing.

So sticking half a tank in will do sod all.

Plus it would be diluted with lower RON

 

[alanc1000]

thats me!

That's my old car!! I bought it in Nov 07 and sold it to Steve at AllVehicles. I traded my Trophy for it. I hope you're enjoying it!

ahhh amazing!! I've just PMed you - but yes, its an absolute DREAM :approve:

 

[Not a Diesel!!!]

BP had a stand a Goodwood last year. (I picked up loads of free key rings & stickers etc)

They had a 911 Turbo on the rollers and two different fuel lines running into it and kept switching fuel.

I seem to recall another 50 bhp on 102. So about 10% on a big power turbo. This is a 7 octane rating from normal unleaded not just the 2-3 jump for super.

I guess if people are willing to spend hundreds on exhausts, filters and other mods spending an extra £50 on fuel before going on a trackday may give better gains for less outlay. (insurance issues etc)

I believe the stations were being located near race tracks.

 

[planetx]

anyone that buys 102 RON...are just suckers...you really are!!!

Just buy a faster f**king car...that can go 0-60mph quicker than 7seconds...stop chasing the dream of gaining 00000.00001 off of a second because of the result of individual fuels.

trying to gain incy wincy bits of BHP out of induction kits....exhausts and uber high RON fuels etc etc ... and expecting HUGE gains out of a N/A car.



Better still save your cash for a track day tuition for some advice on HOW to drive properly.

 

[ForceIndia]

BP had a stand a Goodwood last year. (I picked up loads of free key rings & stickers etc)

They had a 911 Turbo on the rollers and two different fuel lines running into it and kept switching fuel.

I seem to recall another 50 bhp on 102. So about 10% on a big power turbo. This is a 7 octane rating from normal unleaded not just the 2-3 jump for super.

I guess if people are willing to spend hundreds on exhausts, filters and other mods spending an extra £50 on fuel before going on a trackday may give better gains for less outlay. (insurance issues etc)

I believe the stations were being located near race tracks.

That car had been mapped for the higher octane fuel. So it would show an improvment. As said, to get any significant power out would require a remap, a pointless fuel unless you have the mapping for it.
FFS if 105 octane has no significant effect, how is 102 going to be better?

 

[vdust182]

anyone that buys 102 RON...are just suckers...you really are!!!

Just buy a faster f**king car...that can go 0-60mph quicker than 7seconds...stop chasing the dream of gaining 00000.00001 off of a second because of the result of individual fuels.

trying to gain incy wincy bits of BHP out of induction kits....exhausts and uber high RON fuels etc etc ... and expecting HUGE gains out of a N/A car.



Better still save your cash for a track day tuition for some advice on HOW to drive properly.

He has a point lol

 

[martandem]

£2.55 a litre at silverstone today, i had to give it a go. Half filled the tank for the journey home and got a can full in the boot for those cold evenings when i wanna go for a "drive". All i can say is, SHE PULLS. Louder, raw note and noticeable quicker. Expensive experiment but a hell of a lot of fun

F**k me, thats an insane price! IS it really that noticable though?!...

 

[martandem]

May as well chuck some jet fuel in there and light her up!...