Brake setup (cup)

[Ant1]

Just about to purchase myself a 172 cup. Problem is i didn't like my brakes on my old one (no abs). My question is whats the best brake setup that people have used to get the optimum out of there brakes? Money isn't really a issue but i want a very very good setup. Any advice would be great!

 

[Paul J]

APs with proper bells and rotors, silicone fluid and braided lines. Rears can be uprated but more important get bias set-up how you like with a valve.

 

[Ant1]

Where is this kit avalible from? whats the cost? Cheers

 

[stu8v]

AP's are around £1200-1500.

The web is a wonderful thing do a search for ap racing.

 

[Paul J]

APs are a very serious set-up and prob not needed unless your a hero on the track, the clio is very light.

For ease of use Demon Tweeks can supply all parts, trader on here may do a better price tho.

 

[Ant1]

demon tweaks don't have the option avalible for 172's

 

[Paul J]

Have you called?

 

[benji&eka]

APs with proper bells and rotors, silicone fluid and braided lines. Rears can be uprated but more important get bias set-up how you like with a valve.

thats a fast set up, probs wouldn't work well on the road, operating temperatures ect.

 

[benji&eka]

pagid fast pads & good discs (mine are drilled) on the front should do it, with goodrich hoses all round . change your brake fluid every 30k or so .thats what i've got/do nice bite and a firm pedal, no fade even on the track 8 laps or so.

 

[stu8v]

They will work as good as std ones from cold if you use a DS2500 or 1144 type pad.

 

[Ant1]

is it worth sending yozza a pm? He does a few brake kits.

 

[benji&eka]

his look quite good actually

 

[Fred@BTM]

yeah we (Yozzasport) do a fast road/track upgrade

Goodridge Lines
Brembo GrpN discs
choice of pads

all packages are sub £300!!

 

[matty w]

you can have a set of 6 pot tarox for just over 600 quid

 

[Paul J]

As stu8v said, pads are what will mainly govern operating temp, i ran 1144s and found them great for fast road and just swap for 1155s for track if overheating.

You get what you pay for and as he said money is not a problem, who wouldnt get APs???

 

[stu8v]

you can have a set of 6 pot tarox for just over 600 quid

A big waste of £600 if you ask me. The calipers warp when used and the pistons stick.
They are cheap for a reason.

 

[Lunner]

you can have a set of 6 pot tarox for just over 600 quid

You can ahve a set of 4 pot Willwoods from Mark @ Ritchspeed Imports for well under £500, uses the orignal 280mm 172 discs, or you can go bigger

 

[stu8v]

You can get Porsche Brembo's cheaper than £500.

 

[Ant1]

Getting a set of brembos would be well cheap, but where would i get the mounting kit from?

 

[Mondial172]

You could have bought SOJ back off Jon a couple of weeks ago.

 

[Ant1]

^^^ I did see, but i am just about to buy nevs_172 . Going to pick it up at the weekend

 

[Andy GDI]

on hard track applications i TOTALLY faded the brakes on my 182... and its got better pads...

so the only option is for me to goto 4pots and see how they get on...

need something to keep the heat out.... the wheels dont help though.... but they are staying.

 

[Paul J]

Andy, have you got ducting? will make huge difference without the unsprung weight penalty.

 

[Fred@BTM]

on hard track applications i TOTALLY faded the brakes on my 182... and its got better pads...

so the only option is for me to goto 4pots and see how they get on...

need something to keep the heat out.... the wheels dont help though.... but they are staying.

RE my conversation with Hong Kong man, that could be linked to your driving style

 

[Andy GDI]

fred.... oh we did sort it out.... but we both still faded them....

paul, got ducts there and has helped at little...

lots of weight and not a lot of air via the wheels.

 

[Phill1978]

You can get Porsche Brembo's cheaper than £500.

You can ahve a set of 4 pot Willwoods from Mark @ Ritchspeed Imports for well under £500, uses the orignal 280mm 172 discs, or you can go bigger

you can have a set of 6 pot tarox for just over 600 quid

you can have ceramic setup for £6000

 

[stu8v]

Getting a set of brembos would be well cheap, but where would i get the mounting kit from?

As for the mounting kit any good engineering firm would knock one up easily.
I'm lucky and have all the machining equipment, lathe, milling machine etc.What people must remember is if used very hard such as on track you need to go bigger.
The number of pots a caliper has isnt the be all of brakes, by fitting 4 pots to std size discs you will not gain much as the heat build up will still be similar, you will gain slightly due to most 4 pots being an aluminium alloy construction though.
I would suggest something like Porsche brembos (huge) and 315 x 28mm discs IMHO this is a bullet proof setup.

 

[Mondial172]

Wasn't there a bloke who fitted Porsche brakes to a nova and put himself though the windscreen