Breathing Mods on a 1.2

[Chris J]

The exterior of my car is pretty much how i want it atm, so I have around £70 that i want to spend on other bits.

Im thinking of either getting a k&n panel filter to go in my standard airbox (£27) and use a larger cold air feed from the grille rather than the headlight (probs £30 for ducting etc)

orr

Get an omp strut brace for the front to help stiffen the car.

Looking to improve either the noise/sound/handling as im happy with the way the car looks.
Any other ideas are more than welcome, but I do want to spend this money on the car, I have enough for nights out etc

 

[guysy]

I would get a panel filter like you said and upgrade the caf hose or take the hose off.

Of you could get an open pipercross filter or something.

 

[Chris J]

take the hose off completely? what difference would that make?
would there not be heatsoak etc?

 

[Chris J]

anyone?

 

[BioHzrd]

Its a 1.2 mate no need to worry about heatsoak.....get it for those noise....

As for a strut brace no point there usless on a Clio waste of money

 

[Alastair.]

standard air filter will be better than a panel filter or cone

 

[Chris J]

but would the standard filter benefit from a relocated cold air feed (like behind the grille rather than behind the headlight - more cold air = better, no?)

 

[BioHzrd]

but would the standard filter benefit from a relocated cold air feed (like behind the grille rather than behind the headlight - more cold air = better, no?)

It would benefit but nothing drastic, waste of time to be honest.

 

[Aluco]

I have a Viper induction kit you can buy if you want, you will need a hose (Like samco) and a mounting bracket though I imagine, I'm not familiar with the 1.2 engine, PM me if interested.

 

[Chris J]

ok, sounds like its a no then. Might spend the money on a megane/laguna splitter and some aero wipers instead.
Cheers for your help

 

[Reyes]

ok, sounds like its a no then. Might spend the money on a megane/laguna splitter and some aero wipers instead.
Cheers for your help

Wise idea.
I'd buy it some lungs.

 

[nick.]

hey up m8y i gave a pipercross induction kit on mine, it sounds pretty nice tbh. But I tagged along to a rolling road with a few of me friends a while back and the induction kit give me 4 bhp, you wont get much performance gains out of 1.2's so have one for the sound if ya get one m8y

 

[Chris J]

4bhp?? Surely that would be noticable?
79bhp from 75 is quite a bit percentage difference lol, wouldnt that make more of a notable difference than on a 182 where its like 2% extra?
Confused.com

 

[nick.]

lol i got mine for 90 quid m8y and with that got a 90 degree red elbow an oil breather filter fink thats wot it called anyway lol, good value for the money in my opinion but wont do anytin else engine wise cos i did fink it was noticeable imo

 

[Tucker]

a full exhaust system on the 1.2's has a much better effect than induction mods,

speaking from experience

 

[bcfc_mitch]

Performance wise theres nothing you can really do to a 1200, without risking the health of your engine, tuning an engine that small is not something I'd recommend, the only way you'd get any drastic increase in power/performance is by pushing the engine past its limits, like re-mapping! If you've got a 1200, like I have, just go for the look and sound of your car!

If you want an induction kit to make it look better, or a strut brace, then go for it but don't expect any performance perks!

 

[edde]

Performance wise theres nothing you can really do to a 1200, without risking the health of your engine, tuning an engine that small is not something I'd recommend, the only way you'd get any drastic increase in power/performance is by pushing the engine past its limits, like re-mapping! If you've got a 1200, like I have, just go for the look and sound of your car!

If you want an induction kit to make it look better, or a strut brace, then go for it but don't expect any performance perks!

tunning the engine is fine ok gains are less than a 2.0 etc but its nothing wrong with it

4bhp?? Surely that would be noticable?
79bhp from 75 is quite a bit percentage difference lol, wouldnt that make more of a notable difference than on a 182 where its like 2% extra?
Confused.com

depends what the engine had to start with I've seen a stock cars with 65hp get 75 on dynos

gains from the remap will be smll mostly the big benefit is the mid range gains

 

[bcfc_mitch]

But its just not good for an engine that small to be running more power than it should, I'm not saying you CAN'T get better performance out of it, but the engine won' last long!

Renault give their cars adequate power, so that they can do their job and last as long as possible, so giving it more power and playing around with it, will shorten the life of your engine!

 

[Alan]

Its a 1.2 mate no need to worry about heatsoak.....get it for those noise....

As for a strut brace no point there usless on a Clio waste of money

+1

 

[marinemackay2003]

for noise get a open cone filter instead of a pannel fillter

70 quid may not get you a top brand but hey sooo what still make the same noise

 

[mini-valver]

But its just not good for an engine that small to be running more power than it should, I'm not saying you CAN'T get better performance out of it, but the engine won' last long!

I've never read so much bullshit in all my days. A 1.2 has the same mechanical components as a 2.0, just a smaller capacity, so makes less power. It's no less strong.

Decent exhaust and fiilter, sound better and free up some response. No, you wont gain 10bhp but you'll think you have because it's louder

 

[bcfc_mitch]

just a smaller capacity, so makes less power.

So the capacity is smaller? Making the pistons smaller? connecting rods smaller? All the little things like gudgeon pins, big ends, there all smaller?

 

[mini-valver]

Bike engine. 1000cc, 160bhp and 14000 RPM.

Have you seen the size of a lifter on an F4R? Just because things are small, doesn't mean they're not able to take power.

 

[bcfc_mitch]

Thats built for a purpose, thats built for performance, a 1200cc clio, is not built for performance, how can you compare those two?

 

[mini-valver]

An R1 is a road bike you clown, it's built to be reliable and fast.

A 1.2 Clio is built from the same materials as a 2.0, just a smaller version. It will take a 30bhp increase, as will an RS. Anymore and you may need pistons and rods, EXACTLY the same as you would in an RS. It's all comparitive.

 

[bcfc_mitch]

What so road vehicles aren't built for performance? Your saying an R1 is not built for a performance?

I'm not saying they won't take a power increase, but the point I'm trying to argue is that its just not good for the engine, your saying a 1.2 will take a 30brake increase, before it starts to fall apart, but if you do re-map it up 30bhp, thats putting it on the very limits, so how are you arguing that its good for the engine?

 

[mini-valver]

f**k me. You cant remap to 105bhp, trust me, you'll fail hard. My engine is 35bhp up on standard, running standard rods and pistons and it's fine. Engine's arent made of plastic.

Bcfc Mitch-Ruining car tuning forever.

 

[The Boosh!]

LOL

 

[BenR]

why wont the engines last long? lol

The bottom end of an F4 is nothing more than a glorified diesel from years ago.

 

[bcfc_mitch]

Ha by all means tune a car, but you need some foundation, a 1.2 clio is not a good foundation for car tuning, if you've got a 172 upwards then fair play go mad! Every car has its limits sunshine!

 

[BenR]

I think remapping for 30bhp is ignoring the scientific foundations of our universe.

 

[mini-valver]

PMSL! Hi, I'm walking backwards.

You said a 1.2 will break if you modify it.

 

[bcfc_mitch]

I said you can't do much, and I'm asking if theres really any point? Save your money and get a 172!

 

[mini-valver]

You didn't say that though did you.

"but the point I'm trying to argue is that its just not good for the engine, your saying a 1.2 will take a 30brake increase, before it starts to fall apart, but if you do re-map it up 30bhp, thats putting it on the very limits, so how are you arguing that its good for the engine?"

Means, If you modify a small engine, it will break. Which is absolutely retarded.

 

[BenR]

Dont tell the 1000-1300 cc racing crowd this......they might freak out.

 

[bcfc_mitch]

We'll have to agree to disagree, I wouldn't do it to my 1.2 because I'd rather put the money towards my next car, and I don't think its a good idea, and you think its fine, so you can re-map your 1.2 up by 30brake, and I'll keep mine as it is (;

 

[mini-valver]

Dude, I dont own a 1.2 and I sure as s**t cant map one with a 30bhp increase.

 

[bcfc_mitch]

Your really contradicting yourself?
You said a 1.2 will take a 30bhp increase, as will an rs. Then you said you can't re-map to 105bhp, you will fail hard. Now your saying you can't increase by 30bhp?

 

[mini-valver]

Man, you're a tool, lol.

 

[JCC]

Your really contradicting yourself?
You said a 1.2 will take a 30bhp increase, as will an rs. Then you said you can't re-map to 105bhp, you will fail hard. Now your saying you can't increase by 30bhp?

No, he's saying the engine would be able to handle a 30bhp increase, and he's also saying you wouldn't be able to squeeze 30bhp extra from a 1.2 just by remapping it in the first place. What's so hard to understand?