can a valver have no power steering

[clean16v]

gonna call my reno specialist mate later to get a defo answer......................this seems an easy way to gain a few ponies

 

[stan*]

soneji......shut up.......!!



""as said b4 mate.......valver shafts are more robust.......""



sorry.....am i embarressing myself??

 

[Soneji]

Shut up what? They are shorter are they not? I know that they are def shorter than normal R19 and even shorter compaired to R19 16v

 

[stan*]

u were telling me to shut up yesterday cos i was "embarressing myself"?!! WTF??

R19 16v has the same track as a williams, thats why they will be shorter.

ive measured the f**kin wishbones (u know, the sticky outy bits that the wheels are attached to........ the bits that determine the track) on a valver and an RT..........THEY ARE THE SAME. thats why i left the RT ones on when i put the valver lump in mine, even tho i had the 16v ones ready to put on.

and guess wot??.......the valver driveshafts fitted as did the valver PAS rack.........

 

[Soneji]

RT (Clio) shafts are shorter than non-valver RT R19 shafts. I know because I have a set of each lying on my livingroom floor.

 

[clean16v]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^sold! calm down ladies, thats all the evidence i needed, cheers stan, one last question, does the RT rack mount at teh same point as valver rack?

 

[stan*]

yes....straight swap (u need 16v uj aswell as it is different length IIRC, but thats no prob)

 

[stan*]

Quote: Originally posted by Soneji on 21 April 2004

RT (Clio) shafts are shorter than non-valver RT R19 shafts. I know because I have a set of each lying on my livingroom floor.

f**kin gypo!!!

 

[Soneji]

Lol Chris is right you are an arse. So what, you never repaired driveshaft gators before? Im hardly going to do it in the f**king shower am I?

 

[cliosportcraig]

Just taken some pics of an RT and a 16v rack and the mounting points look the same !! All youd need where the RT rack and mountings !

 

[stan*]

oh no!....chris.....wot, THE chris ("your friend and also ur lover" *dutch accent*!!!)

BOTHERED

i use my garage to do all my work, not my house.

"Im hardly going to do it in the f**king shower am I?"

depends wot flicks ur switch? i mean, the thought of a metre long shaft in ur hands may well make u feel compelled to jump in the shower.........!!

 

[u33db]

Quote: Originally posted by stan* on 21 April 2004

R19 16v has the same track as a williams, thats why they will be shorter.

Not quite, R19 16v track is ever so slightly wider (by about half an inch or so) and is down to subframe differences. This is why you cannot use both R19 16v shafts in a williams.

 

[stan*]

u get my point tho!

 

[u33db]

yep.

 

[BenR]

Quote: Originally posted by Soneji on 21 April 2004

RT (Clio) shafts are shorter than non-valver RT R19 shafts. I know because I have a set of each lying on my livingroom floor.

Why are you yabbing on about 19 shafts?

Do you ever say anything sensible, or isnt ripped striaght from the mouth of chris.

I mean, i already know you stand about talking to his sis whilst he does all the work.

 

[stan*]

BTW that wasnt a dig at chris (cos he doesnt talk sh*te like u)^^^^^^^^

that was for u (george)

 

[Ben j]

i think benR can teach u all some lessons so stop arguing ladies and get comfortable for the story

 

[clean16v]

waiting for story..........

 

[JAY172]

once upon a time..........

 

[stan*]

in a field in Summerset......

 

[BRUN]

the wishbones on the 16v and the RT are NOT the same, they are very very similar but they are NOT the same, i know this because i got supplied some 16v ones at work instead of RT ones and they were wrong, the bushes on them are slightly different sizes..........i even rang the manufacturer and got some bloke in the warehouse to go get me one of each and measure them exactly for me..

the RT drive shafts are NOT the same size as the 16v ones.........if they were then i could have used my old drive shafts on my GTT conversion, i didnt, i bought new 16v ones......

oh and Mehdi ive got a manual RT rack that you can have mate........its an old one but if it helps you with your measurements or anythin it might be worth havin a look at........

 

[stan*]

Quote: Originally posted by BRUN on 22 April 2004


the wishbones on the 16v and the RT are NOT the same, they are very very similar but they are NOT the same, i know this because i got supplied some 16v ones at work instead of RT ones and they were wrong, the bushes on them are slightly different sizes..........i even rang the manufacturer and got some bloke in the warehouse to go get me one of each and measure them exactly for me..

the RT drive shafts are NOT the same size as the 16v ones.........if they were then i could have used my old drive shafts on my GTT conversion, i didnt, i bought new 16v ones......

they are defo the same length tho.....therefore same track......

 

[BRUN]

they possibly are the same length, but there not identical items, at least 1 of the bushes is a diff size......

 

[Soneji]

Hmmm so stan was wrong? I wonder why that was (arse) lol he he

 

[clean16v]

you could be a life saver mate, when i next see you ill have that rack please mate! cheers for all the replies, this is the only thing keeping me on this forum, every now and again you get some usfull advice!

 

[stan*]

aaahhhhhhhhhh!!! they are the same length tho, regardless of 1 of the bushes being different!!!

 

[clean16v]

and guys, thanks for also giving an example of why this forum is getting annoying now

 

[2 live]

lol@ mehdi...........u not wrong there pal

but its still worth takin the piss

 

[TheJesus]

Quote: Originally posted by clean16v on 22 April 2004


and guys, thanks for also giving an example of why this forum is getting annoying now

lol, couldnt agree more!

 

[Soneji]

But they are not the same are they Stan?

 

[cliosportcraig]

Quote: Originally posted by Soneji on 22 April 2004

But they are not the same are they Stan?

OMFG will you leave it FFS this is totally off topic bitching

 

[BenR]

Quote: Originally posted by stan* on 22 April 2004

in a field in Summerset......

there was a pie on a window sill.

 

[stan*]

Quote: Originally posted by BenR on 22 April 2004

Quote: Originally posted by stan* on 22 April 2004

in a field in Summerset......

there was a pie on a window sill.

it sat, smelling sooo sweet....

 

[BenR]

Quote: Originally posted by stan* on 22 April 2004

Quote: Originally posted by BenR on 22 April 2004

Quote: Originally posted by stan* on 22 April 2004

in a field in Summerset......

there was a pie on a window sill.

it sat, smelling sooo sweet....

its must of been the peaches......millions of peaches.

 

[S2 PTH]

If you want to build your arms up for driving a car without PAS, try driving a race car with downforce! That will show you what its like but unlike the racing car which will get heavier at higher speeds, the normal cars get lighter... still, cant see why youd want to do it, as for normal driving it will b terrible. My SPAX suspension kit has added alot of weight to the steering especially at slow speeds (But if it gets too slow then the PAS kicks in nicely!)

-phil-

 

[stan*]

Quote: Originally posted by BenR on 22 April 2004

Quote: Originally posted by stan* on 22 April 2004

Quote: Originally posted by BenR on 22 April 2004

Quote: Originally posted by stan* on 22 April 2004

in a field in Summerset......

there was a pie on a window sill.

it sat, smelling sooo sweet....

its must of been the peaches......millions of peaches.

but then came along a peach lovin girl, with a spoon

 

[Mitchy]

Clean 16v........Have you had your car on a weighbridge yet??

 

[clean16v]

no mate, but there aint a lot left in there, lightweight wheels, no stereo, speakers, seats, interior panels etc....wold be interested to do so but not sure how to go about it TBH

 

[stan*]

is there a scrap metal place round u?? or a farm suppliers??

either of which will have a weighbridge to way goods goin in or out........

just sweet-talk the honey doing the invoices, in2 letting u "quickly put ur car on"!!

 

[BenR]

Quote: Originally posted by stan* on 22 April 2004

Quote: Originally posted by BenR on 22 April 2004

Quote: Originally posted by stan* on 22 April 2004

Quote: Originally posted by BenR on 22 April 2004

Quote: Originally posted by stan* on 22 April 2004

in a field in Summerset......

there was a pie on a window sill.

it sat, smelling sooo sweet....

its must of been the peaches......millions of peaches.

but then came along a peach lovin girl, with a spoon





So i slaped her and told her to go away.

..............millions of peaches.........peaches for free.