Can Vista be ditched?

[Andy.]

I must just be lucky then as Vista is not slower on my desktop than XP was. Even the benchmarks in 3D06 were pretty much the same.

I use both XP and Vista daily and don't really have a preference for one or the other TBH. Vista looks nicer, does not give me any problems at all and has some nice extras over XP so I am more than happy to leave it on my desktop at home.

Vista may have more processes running and use more RAM but my PC can handle it all and more without breaking a sweat so I honestly could not care less.

Progression can't be more efficient or else Intel would not be bringing out quad cores, but be heading back to PII's. Software is forever pushing the capabilities of the hardware, that is progression.

One thing Vista does very well, is stops numpties from f**king up their PC if they don't have a clue what they are doing. It is easy enough to unblock everything and have unrestricted access if you know what you are doing.

 

[Final Maxim]

ive had vista and xp pro on the same pc, i started with xp, upgraded with vista finally went back to xp.

Didnt notice any real difference tbh, fps in games stayed exactly the same.

vista is great with drivers, literally 99% of stuff you dont need discs for, you just plug it in and itll download the drivers automatically and get them ready to use.

vista also looks better, but you can run windowblinds on xp to get a decent desktop theme.

IMO neithers better, both as good as each other, both have their pros and cons, but if it was me and i had a brand new laptop with vista installed, installing Xp would be one of the very last things id think about.

 

[Aluco]

I didn't, I blew your entire 'theory' away with one sentance.

Dude get a life lol :lolup:

 

[Final Maxim]

ignore KDF, how can you reason with a guy who doesnt like scrubs?

 

[Aluco]

ignore KDF, how can you reason with a guy who doesnt like scrubs?

I hope your joking.

If not god help us all.

 

[Scutch]

Lots of positives and negatives, which is all good, I guess

It wont be a gaming machine, apart from possibly Football Manager and the like. Nothing to stretch the graphics card, anyway. I have my 360 for that. Moreso just to download things (music, movies, applications). Internet access and storing photographs and editing them etc.

I honestly dont need a laptop with a spec like that, but I had my crazy head on. Again.

 

[KDF]

Progression can't be more efficient or else Intel would not be bringing out quad cores, but be heading back to PII's.

LOL.. In one sentence you managed to shoot yourself down !

With each new release Intel's processors are more efficient.

 

[KDF]

Dude get a life lol :lolup:

Dude, get an education. :lolup:

 

[Aluco]

Dude, get an education. :lolup:

 

[Andy.]

LOL.. In one sentence you managed to shoot yourself down !

With each new release Intel's processors are more efficient.

Meh....

accomplishment of or ability to accomplish a job with a minimum expenditure of time and effort

You win.

What I was trying to get at was the software efficiency of Vista rather than related to hardware. Bad comparison to make on my part.

In reply to:

surely progression would be more efficient,

The fact that Vista has more running processes and requires more memory is progression. Nearly all programs evolve to use more system resources as hardware evolves to be able to handle them. The gaming industry is a prime example of this.

 

[TaMrLb]

thanks for posting this scutch

Scutch, if you get that Dell laptop and put XP on it, I can pretty much assure you that you'll have issues putting drivers and apps back on it. Laptops are not quite like desktops. Often the hardware is locked to the vendors drivers. You could potentially have sound card issues, graphics card issues and you may not be able to properly install generic drivers. That's worst case obviously - you may not have any issues at all but I think you will. IMO it's not worth the bother unless you really decide you hate Vista.

hmmmm i was tempted to stick with what i know and ask for xp with my new lappy, but i think i'll try the vista before i'm able to upgrade to windows 7

 

[meady100]

I had a world of pain doing exactly this to a mate's laptop. Thought it would be a piece of cake; ended up spending two full days trawling forums for missing drivers and all sorts that aren't even compatible with XP. Even when I gave it back, the webcam and ethernet port weren't working. Whoops!

 

[Struggler]

this is my point,
people have said its 50/50,
and they dont notice the difference,
and both are as good as each other,

this is an operating system that microsoft spent about 6 years developing!!!

windows xp came out in 2001, only a few years after the release of win98,
and the difference was amazing, windows 98 got forgotten in minutes.

and now microsoft have spent about 6 years designing theyre latest and greatest operating system, and a large percentage of people are still torn between this great operating system, and a operating system from 2001! dell have only just stopped giving theyre customers the option of having xp over vista on new computers, (and it wasnt without its fair share of takers).

that fact alone says to me that windows vista is an epic fail!

no wonder theyre pushing the release of windows 7, which i have heard refered to many times as a finnished version of vista.

 

[KDF]

You can still get XP if your order through Dell.. i ordered new laptops recently shipped with XP.

 

[David]

Keep vista. Trust me you'll end up liking it, if you are desperate for it to run fast and use out of date technology install windows 2000

 

[cava83]

My god, there are some handbags fights in here.

Vista is much heavier than XP, I still prefer using XP and have used both extensively.

Sometimes it's extremely hard to get the upgrades to XP, if you are speaking to a normal sales person, they will just fob you off, an account manager would try and sort you out,

There are certain models like the 1530 which they will just leave you with vista.

KDF does know his stuff, not quite sure why he doesn't like scrubs though.!

 

[Mike_182]

Nothing significantly wrong with Vista though for the home user:

DX10 support.
Native Windows Search engine which is infinitely less intrusive than the XP addon.
Media Centre improvements.
Driver model improvements.
SP tie to Server 2008.
Security Enhancements.

Just because it doesn't tickle your bits (usually through wanting to put the latest software on old hardware) doesn't make it crap. You wouldn't go down to Renault and ask them to put the new chassis on the engine out of your 172, so why should you expect Microsoft to do the same? Granted, that's a loose (as a *****'s bits) analogy but computers have been very forgiving in mixing old and new - and it's that that gives nightmares to developers.

 

[The Boosh!]

install OSX

 

[iain187]

once you get used to vista it's fine. Though there is a 'learning curve' i suppose.

same with upgrading to Office 2007 imo

 

[Scottydog]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showpost.php?p=5034363&postcount=235

 

[realnumber 1]

Anyone ever heard of Dual Booting:S?:S

Then you can actually decide for your self which is quickest on your machine or which one you prefer.

Have a look at some of these things to help vista run quicker.

http://mostlysavingmoney.com/top-10-windows-vista-speed-tweaks/

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMyNywxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

I work in IT and still like and work with XP. For home use Vista is better though imo. Any new Laptop/PC is good enough to run it fine now.