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106gti/SaxoVTS Vs Clio 16v - IMO i think 9/10 the 106/Saxo would be slightly quicker through first, then the valver would gain back what it lost, then from 80mph + the Vavler would gently pull away.......
One of my mates has a vts and another as the 106 gti, they raced a few times and the 106 is always quicker, just straight line, the 106 driver is a fa6 on corners, why have a 106 gti eh!! Compared to the valver though i dont know, havnt bought mine YET!!
from what ive read in the past, the 106 is supposed to be slightly better polished-off than the vts......id rather have the 106.....its in Jeremy Clarksons top 100!!! lol........Kelly any idea what happened to your saxo in its life after you??
VTS/106 GTi are a very fine match for the 16v. Off the mark will be similar - getting ahead will depend on timing and technique.
The 16v will be better at higher speeds and overtaking though.
Handling would be hard to call. The 106/VTS are very sharp, but likely to "snap" suddenly (like the 205 GTi). The 16v is more progressive and less likely to get you into trouble - but that does not mean its slower or not as good.
well sorry people, ive just bought a VTS, got a really good deal and me folks are giving me a loan. Ill have a valver or a williams one of these days, better looking and better image but cant turn the deal down.
id love a williams as well! Gettin a 99 S reg with 12,900 miles, completly standard, one lady owner, FSH, think its had 6 services, 3 small stone chips on the bonet other than that not marked, its white not sure about that part of it though. all for £4400. No sure if it is good but i thot it was!
I have to wait a week and a half before i can drive it, even see it. Im buying it on dads word but i can go by what he says, i hope!! But when i get it ill give you all a post, jus wish i had experiance of a valver to compare them!!
Had a shot of my mates one, ars£ end aint shy at all, which i like, as long as i dont loose it too bad!! Worst thing about them i think is they r clit cars, every c**t has one!! Nice thing about a valver is you dont see many about, well i dont!
I have a VTS, (Used to have a VTR) and they aint slow once you get them above 5000rpm and they come on cam, (They redline at 7000rpm, hit the limiter at 7500rpm.) At lower revs they feel pretty uninspiring but once you hit the sweet spot they transform into a bit of an animal
I have yet to race a 16v or 106Gti, but from what people have said there shouldnt be much in it on the straights or twisties. Some people prefer the exclusivity of the GTi, some prefer the looks of the VTS. Everyones opion is their own.
The back end can be a little lary unless you are good at lift off oversteer be carefull with the VTS/GTi on bends, dont even think about backing off at speed!
But although they can be a handful when abused on a bend it really gives a feeling of acomplishment if you do take a good corner, they can really reward good driving but they can punish the unwary, which is why most totalled VTR/VTS/GTis are from spotty oiks that have only been driving 10 minutes!
I dont think they are anywhere near as fast as a 172 but for the money they cost they are good value for money with more modded bits and pieces than you can shake an induction kit at. And they are still faster than 90% of the cars on the road
Just dont try a rolling 50mph start against a Saab 93 turbo as I found out to my suprise!