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Clio Phase II 16V
Well ive first hand experience, and youll waste a VTS with a standard Clio was about 2 foot off his rear bumper on the M25 @ 115mph and flew past him and carried on going to 127+
He had an uprated exhaust as well
VTS/106 GTi are a very fine match for the 16v. Off the mark will be similar - getting ahead will depend on timing and technique.
The 16v will be better at higher speeds and overtaking though.
Handling would be hard to call. The 106/VTS are very sharp, but likely to "snap" suddenly (like the 205 GTi). The 16v is more progressive and less likely to get you into trouble - but that does not mean its slower or not as good.
clio 20v
last time i had a race wiv a vts i pulled a a good cars length up to 80 then had to slow down, my mates 106 has beaten a vts
theres nuthin in it between his 106 an mine, except top end wen i gain a bit
adi
it depends what years the cars are, or should i say when they were manufactured. theres three types of vts/gti, all the respective years are a perfectly even match apart from the driver
early ones 120 bhp
later ones, by this i dont mean all mk2 etc 130bhp.
latest(mine) somewhere inbetween about 124ish. due to emissions which can be reversed apparently
a lot of x reg vts are the 15.4-5 1/4 milers due to there undisclosed 130bhp.
so if you race one you can never be sure wihich is quickest cos the power of them varys, so a mate with x might beat x or vise versa
id love a williams as well! Gettin a 99 S reg with 12,900 miles, completly standard, one lady owner, FSH, think its had 6 services, 3 small stone chips on the bonet other than that not marked, its white not sure about that part of it though. all for £4400. No sure if it is good but i thot it was!
I have a VTS, (Used to have a VTR) and they aint slow once you get them above 5000rpm and they come on cam, (They redline at 7000rpm, hit the limiter at 7500rpm.) At lower revs they feel pretty uninspiring but once you hit the sweet spot they transform into a bit of an animal
I have yet to race a 16v or 106Gti, but from what people have said there shouldnt be much in it on the straights or twisties. Some people prefer the exclusivity of the GTi, some prefer the looks of the VTS. Everyones opion is their own.
The back end can be a little lary unless you are good at lift off oversteer be carefull with the VTS/GTi on bends, dont even think about backing off at speed!
But although they can be a handful when abused on a bend it really gives a feeling of acomplishment if you do take a good corner, they can really reward good driving but they can punish the unwary, which is why most totalled VTR/VTS/GTis are from spotty oiks that have only been driving 10 minutes!
I dont think they are anywhere near as fast as a 172 but for the money they cost they are good value for money with more modded bits and pieces than you can shake an induction kit at. And they are still faster than 90% of the cars on the road
Just dont try a rolling 50mph start against a Saab 93 turbo as I found out to my suprise!
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