Clio 172 cams etc

[philip]

I am using a unichip. Before the cams, with head/manifold work power was 193bhp and torque 190lb/ft. I havent had it remapped since fitting the cams as we had to work on mechanical problems. I will be doing this in a couple of weeks.

The most noticeable improvement is a massive increase in torque which is exactly what I needed for track use.

 

[Tom]

jesus that torque figure is huge!!

well done fella.

 

[chris172]

I know how every one rates the Unichip massively, but......they really are very high figures with just head/manifold work. What RR did you use?

Roamers TBs was 197lb/ft torque (i think)

 

[Craggy]

all this torque is leaving me gasping to get my vts back from its trip to the tuners, not expecting much more power but a great torque increse across the revs, but people down the pub dont understand that

keep up the good work

 

[Craggy]

that torque is prob nm not lb/ft!

 

[RPM]

But standard torque in NM is 200.

 

[chris172]

Quote: Originally posted by chris172 on 06 February 2004


Roamers TBs was 197lb/ft torque (i think)

Just remembered...that was a V6 at the last RR day at Power engineering.

 

[Andy GDI]

we use a system similar to unichip, called an SMT6, I highly rate this type of system as they are the next best thing to a fully mappable stand along ECU, and therfore generally get better results, especially on lesser developed cars like the 172

we can indeed undertake the rr work and mapping as well as the head work etc etc.

I will let you know what the BHP figs are with the cams and zorst and filter......



Andy

GDI



totally agree, mid range drivability etc are much more important than out and out BHP figures.....

 

[visceral]

andy - If its longer than a day to cam her up, can I sleep in ur workshop??

 

[BenR]

Andy provides a full B&B service aswell.

 

[Fred@BTM]

Roamers was 170lbs/ft and 212bhp

Phillip!!! Bloody hell thats a MASSIVE torque figure!!!! Im not having a go or anything, but just curious as to which rolling road that was done on????

 

[edde]

Quote: Originally posted by Fred2001Dynamic on 07 February 2004


Roamers was 170lbs/ft and 212bhp

Phillip!!! Bloody hell thats a MASSIVE torque figure!!!! Im not having a go or anything, but just curious as to which rolling road that was done on????





I can belive that 212hp sound very reasonable. Also since you usually get about the same Hp as torque out of petrols 170 for 212hp would be about right. After all its only 15lb more than stock isnt it?

170lb its what 80hp dci get after a £500 remaps. I love diesels

 

[Fred@BTM]

i thought the 172 had around 145lbs/ft stock????

 

[Dansta]

my car has 165lbft of torque!!!! feck me phil that is massive!

 

[Andy GDI]

my 1.8 turbo audi has 180 ft lbs at 2000 rpm and a standard engine!! love turbos!

 

[philip]

This was measured at Millway racing near Andover before the cams. Im about to have the car remapped over the next 10 days after the cams at another unichip dealer (probably crawley) so I will confirm again the exact result. In any event you can very easily feel the difference as the car pulls heavily in 4th/5th gears.

 

[jigme]

Hi Andy,

Can you give me a price of new cams, head/manifold work and remap fitted

Thanks

 

[viceroy]

Quote: Originally posted by Andy GDI on 06 February 2004


we use a system similar to unichip, called an SMT6, I highly rate this type of system as they are the next best thing to a fully mappable stand along ECU, and therfore generally get better results, especially on lesser developed cars like the 172

we can indeed undertake the rr work and mapping as well as the head work etc etc.

I will let you know what the BHP figs are with the cams and zorst and filter......



Andy

GDI



totally agree, mid range drivability etc are much more important than out and out BHP figures.....







Andy...would it be possible to do power figures for just the zorst and filter, and then also with the cam.

Ive got a SMT-6 at home waiting to be fitted (provided I dont sell the car) was a bargain at 50 quid

 

[Andy GDI]

sorry, the cams are fitted now....

next time we get one in I will see if we can get a power run done with just those.

all the best guys



Andy

GDI



Jigme, pmd you back.

 

[Andy GDI]

its back together now... running sweet... will let you guys know how we get on on the rollers... JR indution kit fitted here (in picture) + some sublte engine detailing



http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1076536801__120-2039_IMG.jpg

 

[Andy GDI]

more pics, fitted...

Fast road cams

JR filter

Custom stainless zorst

STM6 (piggy back ECU controller)http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1076536950__120-2040_IMG.jpg

 

[Joethrelk]

how much are you gonna be chargin for all that work mate??

 

[Andy GDI]

you can feel its running lean with the cams as they are without the ECU controller..... runs out of puff even driving gently when they come "on cam".... so cant emphasis enough the importance of getting the fueling right etc...



p.s. we gave it a run up the road to check everything... 1/2 throttle so no danger to engine as there was not loading...

 

[Neil82]

Andy where are you based?

 

[Andy GDI]

cambridge mate, or near

 

[JAY172]

had it on the rollers yet andy?

 

[BenR]

I think he just had it finised today, so it should be getting setup soon.

 

[Andy GDI]

yep, 23bhp increase...... 12 from the ECU map....

mid range power is up lots.... pull much harder through the whole rev range to 6500 rpm (max power)....

much more responsive..... much better and faster car to drive now...

 

[Neil82]

So what HP did it make and torque.

 

[Andy GDI]

Customer emailed me:



Hi Andy,



The 172 drives greeeeat, love the new mid range power, used it to great effect driving home yesterday! I think I upset the driver of a Jaguar x who was on my tail on the motorway I dropped a gear and pulled away from him, then slowed down to within the legal speed limit. After that he was hounding me even more for another show down but I never gave it to him as the battle was all ready won!!



happy chappy

 

[CocoPops]

So come on Andy, what kind of money are we looking?

Ball park, so we can start saving would be good

 

[Neil82]

Andy,

Can you give us a quote for modded head/inlet work (like Hill Power are doing)



Cheers

 

[Matty]

Funny how people always ask what the bhp increase is etc. Thought Torque was more important and where it peaks rather than top bhp figure.

Looks like I will be getting my work done by Andy when I can get all the pieces needed together. Good work.

 

[Andy GDI]

pm me for quotes guys.... not so keen on ball park figures as each job end up being different due to different requirment... however you can be assured of value and massive attention to detail.

peak torque is at 4500 with cams and map.... about 170 lt lbs on last engine we did... big boost mid range really... was down about 25 ft/lbs on that as standard... he was pleased