Morning all, just joined the forum, been lurking the background both on here and Facebook for a few weeks now trying to pull together as much info as I can before committing to a Clio as a Weekend/Track toy for the end of this year and next year. This will be my 3rd car along side my Daily M135i and fully restored Classic Mini. Looking to buy something in the next few weeks to try and get some track days in before Winter.
So far ive been looking at a variety of 182's on the FB page as well as Autotrader, and have seen a few of the 200's creep into budget.
Maybe i havent looked hard enough, but i cant seem to find any info on how much of a job a cambelt and dephaser is on the 200 vs the 182, theres a good vid on youtube of a 182 being serviced but nothing really on the 200. Is the 200 much more of a job? I would plan on doing the work myself and I cant imagine its going to be the worst job ever, ive recently just fully restored an old Mini in the garage so should be fine and ive got an engine crane, too many tools and workbench etc. I would need to buy timing tools at a minimum but wondered if theres anything im missing or if it is basically the same procedure on the 200 as the 182.
Secondly, gearboxes, the 3rd/4th syncro, again is this a driveway/home garage job or would it need to go off to a gearbox rebuilder, and are there any main differences between a 182 and 200 gearbox apart from the extra gear in the 200? Happy to pull the gearbox apart but the one thing i dont have in my workshop is a bearing press or extractor. The parts dont look too expensive and from doing a bit fo research the box in itself isnt too tricky to pull out the car, just a bit fiddly. I do have access to a 4 poster ramp if required. One option is to pull the engine and box at the same time and do any Syncro work at the same times as the Dephaser/Belt.
I see theres quite a few options when it comes to Standard/Cup/Full fat, am i correct in thinking the Full fat is in effect a standard with a few of the Cup goodies but maintaining the Aircon, but an outright cup also has suspension hard point changes as well as a different steering rack, or again is this all difference between 182/182Cup/182FF and 200/200Cup/200FF
The 182 and 200 are both joint at the top of my list (although has to be a funky colour), other options ive got on the table are an EP3, although probably a crusty one for £5k, an FN2 although not fully sold on the size of it, and maybe something like an R26 or even a Boxster. Ive already had a 130i in the past and an NC MX5 so dont want to go back there, but interested to know if anyone else has been in this position and any feedback between the Renaults and Hondas and other £5k toys etc? All the reviews i can see online mainly benchmark the 182 trophy vs XXX and its sort of not useful in my circumstances as they are significantly out of budget and from what i can see the Trophy is quite a difference vehicle character to the Cup/FF's.
Many thanks,
So far ive been looking at a variety of 182's on the FB page as well as Autotrader, and have seen a few of the 200's creep into budget.
Maybe i havent looked hard enough, but i cant seem to find any info on how much of a job a cambelt and dephaser is on the 200 vs the 182, theres a good vid on youtube of a 182 being serviced but nothing really on the 200. Is the 200 much more of a job? I would plan on doing the work myself and I cant imagine its going to be the worst job ever, ive recently just fully restored an old Mini in the garage so should be fine and ive got an engine crane, too many tools and workbench etc. I would need to buy timing tools at a minimum but wondered if theres anything im missing or if it is basically the same procedure on the 200 as the 182.
Secondly, gearboxes, the 3rd/4th syncro, again is this a driveway/home garage job or would it need to go off to a gearbox rebuilder, and are there any main differences between a 182 and 200 gearbox apart from the extra gear in the 200? Happy to pull the gearbox apart but the one thing i dont have in my workshop is a bearing press or extractor. The parts dont look too expensive and from doing a bit fo research the box in itself isnt too tricky to pull out the car, just a bit fiddly. I do have access to a 4 poster ramp if required. One option is to pull the engine and box at the same time and do any Syncro work at the same times as the Dephaser/Belt.
I see theres quite a few options when it comes to Standard/Cup/Full fat, am i correct in thinking the Full fat is in effect a standard with a few of the Cup goodies but maintaining the Aircon, but an outright cup also has suspension hard point changes as well as a different steering rack, or again is this all difference between 182/182Cup/182FF and 200/200Cup/200FF
The 182 and 200 are both joint at the top of my list (although has to be a funky colour), other options ive got on the table are an EP3, although probably a crusty one for £5k, an FN2 although not fully sold on the size of it, and maybe something like an R26 or even a Boxster. Ive already had a 130i in the past and an NC MX5 so dont want to go back there, but interested to know if anyone else has been in this position and any feedback between the Renaults and Hondas and other £5k toys etc? All the reviews i can see online mainly benchmark the 182 trophy vs XXX and its sort of not useful in my circumstances as they are significantly out of budget and from what i can see the Trophy is quite a difference vehicle character to the Cup/FF's.
Many thanks,
