Clio 200T remap

[peedee]

Looking to get my 200t mapped guys. Where's the best place to get it done?

 

[leeds_182]

RS Tuning in leeds if you're anywhere near.

 

[peedee]

Maidstone unfortunately!

Any idea of the effects on the gearbox in this one?

 

[ForceIndia]

I've read that the gearbox is the weak link, hence why is got such a (relatively) low torque figure for a turbo. Given the cost of a dct box, not sure I would want to be the one testing the theory.

 

[peedee]

What is it with manufacturers sticking sub-standard gearboxes in hot-hatches? Clio 200t, clio 200, VXR nurburgring etc

 

[JoeMarano]

I think all hot hatch gearboxes should be rated to 500bhp

 

[Gray]

RS Tuning in Leeds mapped one a few weeks ago, the owner drove up from London:

Impressive gains on a totally standard engine.

 

[JoeMarano]

Bloody hell an extra 40bhp from a remap! I would want an uprated intercooler first though. Can only imagine the gains on a full turbo back exhaust, induction and intercooler!!

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

I love looking at graphs like that, where the car is making it's previous peak power at 2500rpm less!

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

I've read that the gearbox is the weak link, hence why is got such a (relatively) low torque figure for a turbo. Given the cost of a dct box, not sure I would want to be the one testing the theory.

Not disregarding this, but what was the source of that? I read the gearbox was made getrag by which I would usually associate with decent quality.

 

[JoeMarano]

Looks like the new Clio is going to be causing the Megane a bit of bother in years to come...

 

[Gray]

I would imagine the gearbox is up to the job, being a Getrag unit.

 

[ForceIndia]

I would imagine the gearbox is up to the job, being a Getrag unit.

Was in an early review. Apparently rated to max 206lbft, hence why it's detuned from other applications, doesn't the juke have more torque? Has to be a reason they held it back?
As said though, just what I've read, can't vouch for the accuracy.

 

[warwickstingray]

Getrags site agrees but also says that the fiesta ST's gearbox is only rated at 285nm!

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

I was curious and looked it up.

On Getrag's website the unit in the Clio is the 6DCT250 and max torque capacity is 280nm which is indeed 206(.5) ft-lb.

http://www.getrag.com/en/products/produkt_detail.html

 

[MarkCup]

It's that low?! I always thought the 250 moniker of the 'box meant it could handle 250 lbsft.

Sod running a gearbox rated at 206 on an engine putting out over 250!

 

[Goodj]

I've read that the gearbox is the weak link, hence why is got such a (relatively) low torque figure for a turbo. Given the cost of a dct box, not sure I would want to be the one testing the theory.

that

 

[Ph1 Tom]

I'd take the ratings with a pinch of salt.

Get an exhaust and sports cat then take it to rs tuning for a map.

 

[Ph1 Tom]

It's that low?! I always thought the 250 moniker of the 'box meant it could handle 250 lbsft.

Sod running a gearbox rated at 206 on an engine putting out over 250!

What torque is yours at with the 211lbft rated gearbox?

 

[MarkCup]

247 lbsft and it's fully warrantied for 5 years and 100k miles.

 

[ForceIndia]

247 lbsft and it's fully warrantied for 5 years and 100k miles.

Given the weight, must feel nuts in gear. The megs running 305lbft, don't think I'd ever 'need' more.

 

[MarkCup]

Given the weight, must feel nuts in gear. The megs running 305lbft, don't think I'd ever 'need' more.

Yep, it was troubling the TCS today at 40mph in 4th, stupid bloody thing.

 

[NorthloopCup]

Yep, it was troubling the TCS today at 40mph in 4th, stupid bloody thing.

I had a mk3 astra gsi with 440lbft of torque that used to enjoy troubling your arms. Sadly it troubled the inner wings and bulkhead and caused them to split! Lol

 

[MarkCup]

I had a mk3 astra gsi with 440lbft of torque that used to enjoy troubling your arms. Sadly it troubled the inner wings and bulkhead and caused them to split! Lol

LOL, mental.

 

[NorthloopCup]

LOL, mental.

It was! Very! You could use all 3 lanes on the m1 when the boost hit 2 bar!! Lol

 

[Ph1 Tom]

247 lbsft and it's fully warrantied for 5 years and 100k miles.

Will they cover the gearbox as its over what its rated too?

 

[Steven103]

What is it with manufacturers sticking sub-standard gearboxes in hot-hatches? Clio 200t, clio 200, VXR nurburgring etc

Sub standard or perfectly selected for the application?

No more durable, complicated or expensive than it needed to be for the amount of performance that Renault's marketing team desired (which is of course very carefully chosen to sit between a Twingo RS or Megane RS whilst matching/exceeding competitors etc...)

It would seem that car manufacturers underestimate how unsympathetic owners can be towards clutches or servicing etc and hence warranty claims happen.

 

[MarkCup]

Will they cover the gearbox as its over what its rated too?

Given its stated, written, and widely known that the vehicle warranty is not affected by the upgrade why would they not cover any issues?

 

[182Trophy]

Are you at all worried about the box going bang and having to fork out a couple of grand for a new one? Also throwing your warranty out the window for other possible things going wrong too? Seems a massive risk for the sake of 40bhp. Yes it will likely transform the car but that would soon be forgotten if you faced a 5k+ bill.

 

[Dan@SJM]

It was! Very! You could use all 3 lanes on the m1 when the boost hit 2 bar!! Lol

My LCR did that when my ex drove it lol

 

[warwickstingray]

PSA's BE gearbox range is only rated at 250NM and there's people with heavily modified turbo diesel's and turbo'd GTI's running them without issue. It's more about how you treat your gearbox. I would avoid the launch control in the Clio if you start turning the boost up and fitting track day tyres to it. Something has to give.

 

[Ph1 Tom]

My LCR did that when my ex drove it lol

Reminds me of my 250lbft 800kg Fiesta

 

[Daz_RT_04]

Are you at all worried about the box going bang and having to fork out a couple of grand for a new one? Also throwing your warranty out the window for other possible things going wrong too? Seems a massive risk for the sake of 40bhp. Yes it will likely transform the car but that would soon be forgotten if you faced a 5k+ bill.

I want to re-map my Fiesta, I doubt it will be via Mountune tbh.
In terms of a gearbox failure, I would imagine most dealers would look at what has failed, rather than why...and fix the issue.

If they find out its been mapped, yeah game over... But unless its blatantly obvious with stickers like 'Revo' plastered on the car, I'd say they wouldn't look to far into it (Speaking from a Main-dealer here)

 

[Addicted]

As above, I wouldn't say the gearbox is lacking spec, it's done to spec of the car, not to the person wanting to tune it

 

[Goodj]

Also, they're built to a price.
So no sense in making the car more expensive to build, that's just going to trim profits.
And since Renault has yet to become a registered charity for chavs, I think they're focusing on making money on all their cars.

 

[Dan@SJM]

I want to re-map my Fiesta, I doubt it will be via Mountune tbh.
In terms of a gearbox failure, I would imagine most dealers would look at what has failed, rather than why...and fix the issue.

If they find out its been mapped, yeah game over... But unless its blatantly obvious with stickers like 'Revo' plastered on the car, I'd say they wouldn't look to far into it (Speaking from a Main-dealer here)

When am I booking you in?

 

[Marcos999]

I want to re-map my Fiesta, I doubt it will be via Mountune tbh.
In terms of a gearbox failure, I would imagine most dealers would look at what has failed, rather than why...and fix the issue.

If they find out its been mapped, yeah game over... But unless its blatantly obvious with stickers like 'Revo' plastered on the car, I'd say they wouldn't look to far into it (Speaking from a Main-dealer here)

I would of thought the manufacturer will want to know why, firstly because if it becomes common they can work on a fix and if there's a reason the warrenty is void before they give away thousands of pounds worth of parts. It wouldn't take a dealer ten minutes to find out if it's been mapped.
I wonder if RS Tuning let their customers know their map will produce a lot more torque than the gearbox is rated to?

 

[Daz_RT_04]

I would of thought the manufacturer will want to know why, firstly because if it becomes common they can work on a fix and if there's a reason the warrenty is void before they give away thousands of pounds worth of parts. It wouldn't take a dealer ten minutes to find out if it's been mapped.
I wonder if RS Tuning let their customers know their map will produce a lot more torque than the gearbox is rated to?

I know what you mean, although they may find what's failed and deem that as the causable part, not what has led to that component failing etc.. I would imagine it would vary from dealer to dealer in terms of how much digging and/or if a technician feels he can actually be bothered (I know lol).

 

[DrR]

Arg! Wish I knew about that extended warranty before I bought my ST

 

[MarkCup]

Arg! Wish I knew about that extended warranty before I bought my ST

I think you might be able to add this within a certain time period from the initial sale. I'd say it's certainly worth a phone call.