Clio Cup Racer Help

[Ben NBR Cup]

Hi all,

My dad has a Clio 200 cup racer and it has been struggling to start when left for a while turns out the crank position sensor was dirty/ on its way out are the crank position sensors the same as the 200 road car ?

Also I need to change the spark plugs and HT leads are these the same as the 200 road car also ? As the car currently has plugs with 3 electrodes.

Sorry for the potentially stupid question but still learning the car what’s the “race car” bits and what are copied from the road car.

Any help would be great

Ben

 

[R3k1355]

I'd be surprised if the CPS was different, unless it's running a different ECU??

The ignition system may be different (thicker HT leads, or non-long-life plugs perhaps), can you get any part numbers off the leads/plugs to check?

 

[NorthloopCup]

Hi all,

My dad has a Clio 200 cup racer and it has been struggling to start when left for a while turns out the crank position sensor was dirty/ on its way out are the crank position sensors the same as the 200 road car ?

Also I need to change the spark plugs and HT leads are these the same as the 200 road car also ? As the car currently has plugs with 3 electrodes.

Sorry for the potentially stupid question but still learning the car what’s the “race car” bits and what are copied from the road car.

Any help would be great

Ben

I’m pretty sure the crank sensor is the same mate, but there’s 2 types from memory. The plugs on the mk3 are also the 3 prong type.

Put a pic up and I’ll confirm on the crank sensor.

 

[Ben NBR Cup]

I’m pretty sure the crank sensor is the same mate, but there’s 2 types from memory. The plugs on the mk3 are also the 3 prong type.

Put a pic up and I’ll confirm on the crank sensor.

Cheers mate thank you

This is the one in it currently

So I am ok to put the standard mk3 rs plugs in it ? What I will do is take one out and reference the number on the plug before ordering

Thanks again

 

[Ben NBR Cup]

I'd be surprised if the CPS was different, unless it's running a different ECU??

The ignition system may be different (thicker HT leads, or non-long-life plugs perhaps), can you get any part numbers off the leads/plugs to check?

Thank you mate I am not sure on the ECUs again this is all a learning curve, the size of the book that came with the car is massive

Couldn’t see anything on the leads, plugs I will check on Monday and post a picture

Thank you for your help

 

[NorthloopCup]

Cheers mate thank you

This is the one in it currently
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So I am ok to put the standard mk3 rs plugs in it ? What I will do is take one out and reference the number on the plug before ordering

Thanks again

I’ve got one in the garage so I’ll have a look mate. My R3 maxi spec engine ran on standard mk3 plugs without issue.

 

[NorthloopCup]

Thank you mate I am not sure on the ECUs again this is all a learning curve, the size of the book that came with the car is massive

Couldn’t see anything on the leads, plugs I will check on Monday and post a picture

Thank you for your help

Cup racers ran magneti marelli ecu’s and dash’s. They also ran a coil pack instead of cop as it was more reliable

 

[Ben NBR Cup]

@NorthloopCup thank you very much mate, yeah I would be surprised if they ran too many different engine parts to a standard car because the engine is pretty close to a standard road car if my readings are correct, I will just double check the numbers on the plugs and get some ordered if they match.

 

[Ben NBR Cup]

Just whipped a plug out this is what we have (NGK plug)

 

[NorthloopCup]

197/200 plugs mate

 

[Ben NBR Cup]

197/200 plugs mate

Beautiful job thank you very much mate

 

[NorthloopCup]

Beautiful job thank you very much mate

Always welcome mate. I’ll have a look at the crank sensor tomorrow night.

 

[Ben NBR Cup]

The old gal lives again cleaned the crank sensor up for now unit we winter store the car, new plugs in and a spit of a flame out the exhaust and she’s good
Thank you for the help

 

[Ricardos]

On a side note, any Clio Cup specific parts can be ordered through R Sport based in Maidstone.

There's a PDF file for all the parts

http://www.rsportonline.co.uk/

 

[Ben NBR Cup]

On a side note, any Clio Cup specific parts can be ordered through R Sport based in Maidstone.

There's a PDF file for all the parts

http://www.rsportonline.co.uk/

Cheers mate thank you very much I will take a look what are they like to order from I have heard mix things

 

[Ricardos]

Cheers mate thank you very much I will take a look what are they like to order from I have heard mix things

Give them a call direct, I spoke to John and had no problems with my order. I was lucky they were heading over to France the next day to pick up a load of parts so mine was on the list. He was quite helpful

 

[Ben NBR Cup]

Give them a call direct, I spoke to John and had no problems with my order. I was lucky they were heading over to France the next day to pick up a load of parts so mine was on the list. He was quite helpful

Cheers mate I shall give him a call I might need a few bits for the car soon so the old wallet needs to come out That was lucky they only normally go over when they get a certain amount of orders
Cheers mate appreciate the help

 

[Ricardos]

If I'd have missed that run they were heading back over 10 days after, but glad I caught them at the right time as the parts i ordered I wanted before the CS weekender at Blyton. With their involvement with the Clio Cup I imagine they're constantly going over to France picking up parts for the UK teams.