paul
get the cup, youll have loads of fun. I had a pug before, hence the name (306 s16), but the reno really is miles faster. I wouldnt say it feels as composed as the pug used to and is not as comfy round town, but overall i think i prefer it. i think the cup is quite raw in the kinda crude way that old hot hatches were, and i like that, but its not everyones bag.
Unless you can get 200bhp+ in a 306 chassis, you aint gonna come close for a front wheel drive car. Agreed, m3 etc are a different ball game but then youre into much higher running costs for not THAT much more performance in the real world. You tell me a car for under 25k thatll toast most things on the road, do 35-40 mpg if youre that way inclined, and fit your shopping and a couple of small kids in (not that i like kids!).
pugboy