Clio RSi vs 306 Xsi

[mark16v]

What do you guys reckon?

Which one is the quickest you think?

CLio RSi 1.8 8v

Pegueot 306 xsi 2.0 16v

Thoughts?


[Edited by mark16v on 11 January 2005 at 12:03pm]

 

[Tonys]

XSI quite easily id have thought.

 

[David]

er the 306 easily!

 

[mark16v]

Only reason i ask is i sold my valver and got a 306 xsi and i find them very quick.

Liamrsi on this board has a rsi and his seems quick too but we have ever raced to see. Although my 306 seems to have a lot more in each gear.

 

[Swervin_Mervin]

Driven a 2L XSI and I thought it seemed rapid.

 

[mark16v]

Quote: Originally posted by Swervin_Mervin on 11 January 2005

Driven a 2L XSI and I thought it seemed rapid.

how do you compair it to a valver?

 

[iceblue182]

isnt an xsi the same as a gti6 without the 6th gear and some interior bits and bobs? they are about 170bhp iirc

got too be the xsi

 

[Tonys]

Id say the valvers quicker than the xsi.

 

[182 sport]

They havent got 170Bhp

 

[mark16v]

Quote: Originally posted by 182 sport on 11 January 2005

They havent got 170Bhp

The xsi has 135bhp

gti-6 has 167bhp

 

[Swervin_Mervin]

It was quite a while back mate before I had the valver. Possibly slightly slower, but couldnt say.

 

[Lunner]

Rsi have 110 bhp as std, valver is around 120 iirc

 

[DAVE_RSi]

gti-6 is 8.5 0-60

xsi is 10.1 0-60

rsi is 8.6 0-60

all figures from parkers

 

[DAVE_RSi]

was running 119.4 in my rsi before cambelt went

will have to see what its running with the new head and the de-cat

 

[mark16v]

Quote: Originally posted by DAVE_RSi on 11 January 2005


gti-6 is 8.5 0-60

xsi is 10.1 0-60

rsi is 8.6 0-60

all figures from parkers

yes i have seen these figures and they are not even close , there is no way it does it in 10.1!!!! and the 6 is nearer 7.5!

 

[Adams_16v]

my amtes got an xsi. i drove it when it was standard and it had a lot of low down torque, expected really 2.0 8v. hes since had it made into a 2.1 litre monster!

they are heavy cars tho, try opening a bonnet on one and ull see what i mean, they weight a fukin ton!

 

[iceblue182]

Quote: Originally posted by mark16v on 11 January 2005
Quote: Originally posted by DAVE_RSi on 11 January 2005gti-6  is 8.5 0-60 xsi is  10.1  0-60  rsi  is 8.6  0-60 all figures from parkers [/QUOTE] yes i have seen these figures and they are not even close , there is no way it does it in 10.1!!!! and the 6 is nearer 7.5!


if the 6 does it in 8.5 ill eat my ass!

i had a play with an xsi last week in my alfa (9.9-60) and he had me for breakfast

 

[mark16v]

Quote: Originally posted by iceblue182 on 11 January 2005

Quote: Originally posted by mark16v on 11 January 2005

Quote: Originally posted by DAVE_RSi on 11 January 2005


gti-6 is 8.5 0-60

xsi is 10.1 0-60

rsi is 8.6 0-60

all figures from parkers

yes i have seen these figures and they are not even close , there is no way it does it in 10.1!!!! and the 6 is nearer 7.5!

if the 6 does it in 8.5 ill eat my ass!

i had a play with an xsi last week in my alfa (9.9-60) and he had me for breakfast

Yer its true the xsi and especially the 6 are very underated cars! very rapid ppl dont exspect it

 

[DAVE_RSi]

so the gti-6 is near 106 gti pace then??

same kinda prices aswell

nice black 1 on the trader for £2795 60k mileage

what insurance grp r they

 

[mark16v]

Quote: Originally posted by DAVE_RSi on 11 January 2005


so the gti-6 is near 106 gti pace then??

same kinda prices aswell

nice black 1 on the trader for £2795 60k mileage

what insurance grp r they

the 106 gti is proberly a little quicker of the mark then after 60mhp the 6 would kill it due to it having a 6 speed box.

thats cheap as for a 6 too they are group 15 i think , the xsi is 11

 

[Tonys]

Group 16, they are quicker than a 106. Pulling away the 106 is gonna be faster but once going the 306 will catch it. It has short gear ratios which helps alot. Id still have mine if it hadnt been wrote off new years eve!

 

[Dan_mk1]

Quote: Originally posted by Lunner on 11 January 2005
Rsi have 110 bhp as std, valver is around 120 iirc


eh!? clio valver is 137 as standard!
And a 306gti-6 is quicker than a 106 gti as standard.

 

[Swervin_Mervin]

0-60 times.

306 XSI - 8.8s have 137bhp
306 GTI-6 - 7.6s have 167bhp

 

[Munson]

Remember there were two XSi models. The mkI was 123bhp 8v. With the facelift, they ditched the S16 and just made the XSi 16v with 134bhp.

I have the 8v XSi and Ive also seen the 10.1 time quoted before - which I think is b****cks based on my car. But who knows, Ive never timed it. Feels fast though. Pulls like a b**ch from low down.

 

[Swervin_Mervin]

UKCAR quote 10.4 for the later ones, but it doesnt figure as they quote 8.8 for the earlier ones and also the late 2L 16v cabriolets.

Plus it deffo wasnt 10.4 as I used to have a 1.6 Xsara that did it in 10.1 and the 306 was much quicker than that.

 

[unofficialPete]

As far as Im aware my 1.4 on paper will beat all Mk1 306s bar the Gti-6 and Xsi, they are heavy cars! Its quite easy to believe and Id imagine an Rsi to be quicker..

 

[_Kenny_]

i was surprised that the rsi only develops 110bhp when i was interested in getting one.

think the xsi would have a bit too much for it

the 306td is quite quick is it not?

[Edited by POW_Clio on 11 January 2005 at 1:32pm]

 

[mark16v]

cant see it mate

 

[_Tom]

I think me and mark had a little discussion on this one before. Ive never had an Xsi keep with my old valver although it wasnt standard.

I think the RSi would be a very very close match.

 

[mark16v]

Quote: Originally posted by POW_Clio on 11 January 2005


i was surprised that the rsi only develops 110bhp when i was interested in getting one.

think the xsi would have a bit too much for it

the 306td is quite quick is it not?

[Edited by POW_Clio on 11 January 2005 at 1:32pm]

the 306td is a gr8 car and fast for a deisal car

 

[mark16v]

Quote: Originally posted by Tom16v on 11 January 2005


I think me and mark had a little discussion on this one before. Ive never had an Xsi keep with my old valver although it wasnt standard.

not really a fair match then was it lol maybe try racing a 6 if you have a modded one.

I think the valver would do the xsi but not the rsi

 

[Dan_mk1]

Not actually fast tho, rt pace probs

 

[Rob555]

I had a Citroen ZX Volcane TD (basically 306td) maybe a little lighter a while back and my Clio 1.4 (8v) would not see which way it had gone to be honest...it is just adapting your driving style to suit the torque band to get the best out of them..

 

[billy182]

i had a 8 valve 306 xsi my mate had a 16 valve xsi nothing really in it performance wise he just had the edge,the biggest differance was that his was a lot better on petrol both versions would toast a rsi easily.

 

[m4rk]

Quote: Originally posted by BluePete on 11 January 2005

As far as Im aware my 1.4 on paper will beat all Mk1 306s bar the Gti-6 and Xsi, they are heavy cars! Its quite easy to believe and Id imagine an Rsi to be quicker..

1.4 what??? rt?

 

[mark16v]

Quote: Originally posted by m4rk on 11 January 2005

Quote: Originally posted by BluePete on 11 January 2005

As far as Im aware my 1.4 on paper will beat all Mk1 306s bar the Gti-6 and Xsi, they are heavy cars! Its quite easy to believe and Id imagine an Rsi to be quicker..

1.4 what??? rt?



if so i very much doubt it would beat the 306 1.8xs either

 

[unofficialPete]

Quote: Originally posted by mark16v on 11 January 2005

Quote: Originally posted by m4rk on 11 January 2005

Quote: Originally posted by BluePete on 11 January 2005

As far as Im aware my 1.4 on paper will beat all Mk1 306s bar the Gti-6 and Xsi, they are heavy cars! Its quite easy to believe and Id imagine an Rsi to be quicker..

1.4 what??? rt?




if so i very much doubt it would beat the 306 1.8xs either

1.4S (Same peformance as an RT), Im going by parkers statistics, my Clios 11.1 or something.

306:

1.4 up in the 14s

1.6 around 12.5

1.8 11.1 to 11.8 depending on model

Im sure with the 1.8 after 60 Id be toast but goes to show how heavy they are.

forget the 1.9 TD thats up in the 12/13s!

 

[billy182]

yes 1.8xs quite fast and good looking

 

[Swervin_Mervin]

parkers timings are well out though. My 1.6 5dr Xsara was 0-60 in 10.1 so the 1.8 306 will be quicker than that. Prolly 9.5-ish.

 

[Clarkie172]

i drove an rsi when i had a valver, it seemed slow as f**k. i reckon an xsi would be considerably quicker than the rsi. as for the gti6, i had a modded valver n lets just say i tried to (overtake) him he left me for dead!