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Cup Not Starting!!!





Hiya

Ive had my Cup about 5 weeks now.. and am noticing more and more that it doesnt always want to start first time! took 3 attemps yesterday morning, is this common on all clios or just the cup?

Or is it just mine!!!???
 
  Nippy white cup


As Gaz said, if you let the lights go out first it should be ok, other wise it may be something that needs sorting at the garage....

Chris
 


I have same problem with mine, been the same from new. I have noticed if you turn the ignition to the point where the lights come on (listen carefully and there is no noise the first time). Turn the ignition off and back on again and you will notice a buzzing noise, will then start first time without fail!!

Think the buzzing must by fuel pump priming or something (not too sure though as not mechanically minded) but works everytime for me.
 


Cheers for advise! I do always wait for the lights to go out, but never noticed any buzzing sound.. I will listen out and give it a try.

Its been into Lambs for a healthcheck and they said everything was fine...
 

Tom

ClioSport Club Member
  i3


Quote: Originally posted by tonk_172 on 15 September 2004

Isnt the buzzing noise not the climate contol fan
Your exactly right, its not.
 
  182


Surely there must be something wrong with the car, it should start first time always with out any problem, id say take it back to them and get them to investigate the problem further....................... Keep on at them tell them things aint right! Was it a new car? How old is it?

I know people say its common or normal but theres no way i would have that. You turn the key and the motor should start a simple as that, is it not?



Rob.


[Edited by rwaterman on 15 September 2004 at 5:30pm]
 
  172 cup,s2 rs turbo


Quote: Originally posted by Shaz_Cup on 15 September 2004


Hiya

Ive had my Cup about 5 weeks now.. and am noticing more and more that it doesnt always want to start first time! took 3 attemps yesterday morning, is this common on all clios or just the cup?

Or is it just mine!!!???







what does the immobiliser light do? go out normally or flash really fast
 


Quote: Originally posted by rwaterman on 15 September 2004


Surely there must be something wrong with the car, it should start first time always with out any problem, id say take it back to them and get them to investigate the problem further....................... Keep on at them tell them things aint right! Was it a new car? How old is it?

I know people say its common or normal but theres no way i would have that. You turn the key and the motor should start a simple as that, is it not?



Rob.


[Edited by rwaterman on 15 September 2004 at 5:30pm]
 


well i did that quote thing wrong!!!!

No the cars not new, Its 2 years old. a friend has a 182 and used to have a 172 mk1 and his always started first time!!

Its bizarre! i will get it booked in and see what they say.
 


My old megane coupe had the same fault which then got worse till it started cutting out, took it in and they replaced 3 coil packs.

Could be the same fault??
 
  soon to be a 200


Mine doesnt start first time and has been in 19 times last time for 3.5 weeks they have changed ecu ,fuel pump ,injetors,coils and still wont start first time.Renault uk said they have not had any other car with this prob.
 


Well at least i know its not just mine... or me doing something wrong. It hasnt done it today so far!!! :)

Just cant decide if its worth taking it to be looked at or not!
 
  182


My 182 starts first time i dont have to wait for the lights to go out,

Does the car have a history of doing this?

did you buy it from a renault dealer?

Is it something that happens everytime you try and start it?

Id say take it back to renault tell them to look into it............

Rob.
 


Hi Rob

Not sure if it does have history of doing it. Im the second owner and have only had it 5 weeks. I didnt buy it from a renault dealer but did take it in about 3 weeks ago for a healthchack, and they said everything was fine.

It doesnt happen everytime.. but seems to be happening more often. It shouldnt take 3 attempts to start any car IMO.

Think i will take it back in.

Cheers.
 
  insignia


Quote: Originally posted by Shaz_Cup on 16 September 2004


Hi Rob

Not sure if it does have history of doing it. Im the second owner and have only had it 5 weeks. I didnt buy it from a renault dealer but did take it in about 3 weeks ago for a healthchack, and they said everything was fine.

It doesnt happen everytime.. but seems to be happening more often. It shouldnt take 3 attempts to start any car IMO.

Think i will take it back in.

Cheers.
I agree both my 172 & 182 start on the first time of turning key whether or not you wait for the light to come on.
 
  182


Quote: Originally posted by Shaz_Cup on 16 September 2004


Hi Rob

Not sure if it does have history of doing it. Im the second owner and have only had it 5 weeks. I didnt buy it from a renault dealer but did take it in about 3 weeks ago for a healthchack, and they said everything was fine.

It doesnt happen everytime.. but seems to be happening more often. It shouldnt take 3 attempts to start any car IMO.

Think i will take it back in.

Cheers.
Hi, im guessing it must be under warranty only being a couple of years old??

you should make it clear to them that it is a problem ive had my 182 in a couple of times now and i have felt that they would rather try and blag that there is nothing wrong than actually try and fix the problem.

I know someone mentioned that they had this problem and there car has been in 19 times, thats pretty unfortunate but it dont mean to say it will happen to you...... Is there a pattern to it doing this, ie from cold etc?

Tell them everything that you feel they should no and leave it with them, it took me a couple of attempts and a strong letter for them to sort my 182. If it bothers you loads then tell them you aint happy. If it all fails, write a letter to the managing director it worked for me.........

Rob.
 
  172 cup,s2 rs turbo


when it doesnt start will it just keep cranking on the starter but wont fire up or does it try but cut out straight away? is it engine tempurature related? eg-first thing in the morning or doesnt matter,any temp. is it atmospheric temp related? eg-worse on cold or hot days
 
  172 cup TT


shaz i just had this with mine last week... every so often it would not start at all, no mechanical noise what so ever when turning the key - started happening once a week, then more and more often.... had to be towed then it would start - went into reno and turned out to be the starter motor.. all fine now
 


Quote: Originally posted by Floodie on 16 September 2004

shaz i just had this with mine last week... every so often it would not start at all, no mechanical noise what so ever when turning the key - started happening once a week, then more and more often.... had to be towed then it would start - went into reno and turned out to be the starter motor.. all fine now
Thanks for the advise... Think i will definatly take it back in!!
 

Little Newms

ClioSport Club Member
  182, D2 Td5 & 840CI


I collected mine yesterday, and five miles into the journey i stoped and showed my mates, went to start it up and nothing!!!! AA had to come out to me and said to me i may have a dogy starter motor.....
 


Quote: Originally posted by Little Newms on 17 September 2004

I collected mine yesterday, and five miles into the journey i stoped and showed my mates, went to start it up and nothing!!!! AA had to come out to me and said to me i may have a dogy starter motor.....
It took me 4 attempts at lunchtime! how embarrasing. Its the only gripe i have with the car... other than that its spot on! Hope you have fun with yours, once you get it sorted. Gonna take mine back in and get starter motor looked at!
 
  Embarrassed to say


I had exactly the same problem little newms however its the aa bloke thats dodgy, they dont know a thing a bout renault sports. If you have the rac call them out, its just a bolt that has come loose near the starter motor, the rac guy fixed a new bolt there for me and no problems.

I also had the starting problem where you get nothing, and then come back a few hours later and it starts. I just got used it, couldnt be bothered to keep taking it to the dealers with no result.
 


Quote: Originally posted by cupsportmad on 17 September 2004


I had exactly the same problem little newms however its the aa bloke thats dodgy, they dont know a thing a bout renault sports. If you have the rac call them out, its just a bolt that has come loose near the starter motor, the rac guy fixed a new bolt there for me and no problems.

I also had the starting problem where you get nothing, and then come back a few hours later and it starts. I just got used it, couldnt be bothered to keep taking it to the dealers with no result.





I dont know what to do for the best, some people say its normal on all clios some say take in to the dealers!!!!

arghhhhh!!! :confused:
 
  MERCEDES CLS AMG


1 - T D C sensor, get it changed 7700101970 £17.65

2 - the wire going to the starter motors on 172 cups tend to come loose or break due to the position of the wiring loom and the movement of the engine under acceleration. Get it re-attached are tighten the connection up.

3 - sort these out and it will be 100 % perfect !!
 


Quote: Originally posted by j3ned on 17 September 2004


1 - T D C sensor, get it changed 7700101970 £17.65

2 - the wire going to the starter motors on 172 cups tend to come loose or break due to the position of the wiring loom and the movement of the engine under acceleration. Get it re-attached are tighten the connection up.

3 - sort these out and it will be 100 % perfect !!
Cheers.
 
  172 cup,s2 rs turbo


Quote: Originally posted by JAY172 on 16 September 2004

when it doesnt start will it just keep cranking on the starter but wont fire up or does it try but cut out straight away? is it engine tempurature related? eg-first thing in the morning or doesnt matter,any temp. is it atmospheric temp related? eg-worse on cold or hot days
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Interesting, i had a slightly similar problem. But it was more random. Sometimes it just wouldnt start. AA man thought it might have been the imobiliser, got to a point where the engine cut out whilst i was stuck in traffic and wouldnt start for ages. Turned out to be some relay switch which they changed and its been fine ever since.
 
  172 cup TT


Quote: Originally posted by j3ned on 17 September 2004


1 - T D C sensor, get it changed 7700101970 £17.65

2 - the wire going to the starter motors on 172 cups tend to come loose or break due to the position of the wiring loom and the movement of the engine under acceleration. Get it re-attached are tighten the connection up.

3 - sort these out and it will be 100 % perfect !!
I had both these go at the same time.. i dont think her Top Dead Center sensor has gone unless she is getting a judderly ride under acceleration... i think its just her starter motor or the wires.. I had the starter motor and TDC sensor replaced and all fine........................ until my exhaust literally fell off! :)... watch out shaz it will be problem after problem from now :) im trying to get out of the vicious cycle hehe...
 


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