Cup radiator same as all 1*2's?

[Floodie]

Ello - As per title really...

I've kinda bent a load of the fins on the inside of my 172 cup rad, and proper screwed it!... Need a replacement and just want to know if ALL 172 / 182 radiators are the same - im guessing they are just so it makes my search at the scrappies a bit easier...

Many thanks
David

 

[Terry172]

By the looks of the information/drawing on this website I would say yes they are all the same right from 200o up

http://www.car-radiators.org.uk/?gclid=CLXz99jY5pECFSXVXgodrjovXg

 

[Floodie]

Bloody hell! thanks chap... Didnt realise rads were so cheap!.. Was going to go down the 2nd hand route and thought they'd be about £50, but according to the site they are £72!... (http://www.car-radiators.org.uk/?gclid=CLXz99jY5pECFSXVXgodrjovXg)

 

[Terry172]

Bloody hell! thanks chap... Didnt realise rads were so cheap!.. Was going to go down the 2nd hand route and thought they'd be about £50, but according to the site they are £72!... (http://www.car-radiators.org.uk/?gclid=CLXz99jY5pECFSXVXgodrjovXg)

Yeah I noticed the price to and as I am in need of one I am very tempted to supply the rad myself instead of getting the garage to do so but not sure who makes these rads and if they are any good. I was just wondering if the rads were the same myself and came across that site with that drawing.

 

[Floodie]

yeh, they are the same - i just checked with a reno man that i know...thanks again...

 

[Fred@BTM]

nope, they're different, the 172cup rad is the same a a 1.6 dynamique with air con IIRC

 

[Floodie]

!!!! are you totally sure chap? as im ordering it in a sec so i have it for tomorrow!... I was told (and on the site it seems to be the case) that all the 2Litres are the same.. Mine hasnt Air con remember mate...

 

[Floodie]

Any update peeps? Here are both rads:

This is the 172 2 Litre one : http://www.car-radiators.org.uk/?gclid=CLXz99jY5pECFSXVXgodrjovXg

This is the 1.6 16v WITH Aircon one : http://www.car-radiators.org.uk/?gclid=CLXz99jY5pECFSXVXgodrjovXg

 

[ben_p]

Any update peeps? Here are both rads:

This is the 172 2 Litre one : http://www.car-radiators.org.uk/?gclid=CLXz99jY5pECFSXVXgodrjovXg

This is the 1.6 16v WITH Aircon one : http://www.car-radiators.org.uk/?gclid=CLXz99jY5pECFSXVXgodrjovXg

ring renault with my old reg

x311 dnb (thats a 172 with aircon) and ask for a water rad and get the part NO

and then ring with your reg and get the part number.. see if there the same!

 

[Batman]

sure their not the same as kind of mentioned above one has connection for air con and one doesnt i have one with aircon connections but not wired up

 

[Floodie]

ring renault with my old reg

x311 dnb (thats a 172 with aircon) and ask for a water rad and get the part NO

and then ring with your reg and get the part number.. see if there the same!

Cheers Ben will do fella.. ta...

Are Water rads on AC equipped cars(yours) exactly the same as Non-AC'd motors(mine)?..

 

[davebem]

As fred said Im sure they are different but irrc it doesnt matter as they will both fit. The normal 172 one was designed to have the air con rad bolted onto it.

 

[Floodie]

Ah that makes sense Dave cheers... the only other difference if that is true is that the "172" one is over 3cms taller than the 1.6 dynamique.... hmm.... (going via the diagrams on the site above)

 

[Terry172]

If you look in the column to do with air con the answer is yes/no for the rad shown for the 2.0l so i don't think it matters if you fit the rad without connecting up the air con that you don't have surely?

 

[Floodie]

Thats what ive thought - but if that was the case why have a couple of people (with fairly decent reps on here!) suggested a totally different, squatter, 1.6 Dynamique rad... doesnt make sense to me... but surely the likes of fred are right..

 

[Fred@BTM]

part numbers are the same, but i ordered one for a 172cup and the fan wouldn't fit to it (different brackets and stuff)

i'm 99.9% sure its the same as a 1.6 dynamique with aircon, ring yoz he knows more about it than me

 

[Floodie]

Cheers chap - yep i'll give Yoz a call later..

So what did you do about the one where the fan wouldnt fit? modified the brackets?.. One final thing fred, even though my cup has no AC you keep recommending the one six Dynamique ***WITH*** AC - thats correct yeh??

 

[Fred@BTM]

yeah but speak to yoz to confirm

i couldn't fit it, its still in my shed somewhere

 

[Floodie]

Right!, after a weekend of research on this bloody issue im going to order the 172 and NOT the 1.6 dynamique rad from the site above....

My reasoning is this :
- Called renault and gave the reg of Ben_P's 172 to get his radiator part number.. it was 7700417175 new OR 7701352903 for an exchange unit
- Then called up again with my reg and the radiators and part numbers on both cars were EXACTLY the same. I asked them to double check and nope, the same.
- I asked them (and 2 other reno dealers) just to check about needing the 1.6dynamique rad for my cup and after being on hold for a while no one had heard of that (obviously im taking what reno say with a pinch of salt but it does no harm to ask)..
- I then called the rad website people (above) and they also linked the standard 172 rad to my car reg too and advised totally against the dynamique rad
- Spoke with Yoz (very helpful by the way thanks) and annoyingly he was certain its a dynamique rad i needed!!!.. argh... he kindly have me the part number for the rad and i was given 7700417175 which confusingly is the part number for a standard 172 rad?!!(same as above).. eh. So sod it, after all of that i'm just going to order the 172 rad and sod it.. it can be returned anyway if it doesnt fit..

Thanks all for the contributions, especially Ben_P for the reg num.

Dave

 

[Terry172]

Good luck mate, hope you order the correct one

 

[Fred@BTM]

part numbers are the same, but they don't fit!

 

[Floodie]

Thats ridiculous... typical renault, will keep you updated anyway.. As the cups get older this is going to be more a common question.

 

[Fred@BTM]

i'll take a pic of an OE 172cup rad and the one that i got from them using that part number!

 

[Floodie]

cheers Fred - its been delivered now so will know soon i guess!!...

 

[matt25172]

hi all, iv just ordered the same rad from same site, but wasnt a 100% sure its the right one as my car is a 99/2000 model 172 with air con but on the site if you sure for a rad in year puttin 99 they havent got any but if you put 2000 model it comes up with one, didnt understand as i thought 98 to 2001 would all be the same! anyone no if i have ordered the right one?

 

[ben_p]

they only made the sport from 2000 onwards