Difference between timing belt & auxillary belt?

[Clio_Sport_Hull]

well whats the difference, i thought auxillary belt was the same , just named different?

Rang renault today, and they quoted me 738 pound for a timing belt & auxillary belt change!!! whoot!!

rang a local garage and they qutoted me 180 for the timing belt change,

im at 24k mileage, on a 02 reg, what do you reccomend i do? should i change it and if so at what mileage!?

 

[DrR]

Both belts should have been done 2 years ago.

 

[Chrisjk]

Timing belt = cambelt
Aux belt = what drives air con, steering pump etc

 

[Fred@BTM]

£180 for a timing belt change on a 172? - i'll put it this way, the parts are over £250!

timing belt = cambelt connects the crank to the cams in simple terms

aux belt (auxillary) powers all the ancillaries, aircon, PAS, waterpump

 

[Clio_Sport_Hull]

well the local garage quoted me 180 for the fitting if i got the parts, i work at a motor trade, so i get the belt cheap...


So its wise to change it soon then ?? my mileage is 24,556

 

[davebem]

The cambelt and aux belt are due, both due to the age. Make sure all the tensioners and idlers are done too.

Garages will give you cheap quotes thinking its only a 1.2-1.4 clio, they will soon change there mind when they have a proper look.

 

[Fred@BTM]

5years or 72K whichever comes first

have said garage got the special renault tools to do the job?

7hour job officially by the way

 

[Alastair.]

did u say u work in the motor trade?

 

[Daz Clio Cup]

£180 for a timing belt change on a 172? - i'll put it this way, the parts are over £250!

timing belt = cambelt connects the crank to the cams in simple terms

aux belt (auxillary) powers all the ancillaries, aircon, PAS, waterpump

I know people think you're a guru, Fred, but £250 for a cambelt and pulleys? not last time i checked 18 months ago, more like £120 for parts from Renault

 

[Fred@BTM]

plus the auxbelt kit and cam plugs fella

 

[Daz Clio Cup]

plus the auxbelt kit and cam plugs fella

thought you just meant a cambelt change! yeah probably is that sort of price with all the other bits

 

[Fred@BTM]

cambelt kit 7701476675 £142.26+vat
aux belt kit 7701477519 £116.48+vat
big cam plug 7700106271 £6.87+vat
small cam plug 7700274026 £3.69+vat

total £309.70 inc vat retail

 

[Daz Clio Cup]

cambelt kit 7701476675 £142.26+vat
aux belt kit 7701477519 £116.48+vat
big cam plug 7700106271 £6.87+vat
small cam plug 7700274026 £3.69+vat

total £309.70 inc vat retail

How can they justify 116 quid for an aux belt! i paid a tenner for mine ( only drives the alternator tho)

 

[Fred@BTM]

KIT mate, includes idler and tensioner, i ALWAYS change them

 

[Daz Clio Cup]

KIT mate, includes idler and tensioner, i ALWAYS change them

me too, but my cup only runs the alternator now, much cheaper!

 

[Andyman]

Back street garages for cam belt changes.... heads you win, tails you loose

 

[Fred@BTM]

with an RS car? Generally tails

 

[Martin_172]

with an RS car? Generally tails

lol
"do you have the correct tools"
"yeah mate only need a bottle of tipex"

 

[Clio_Sport_Hull]

cambelt kit 7701476675 £142.26+vat
aux belt kit 7701477519 £116.48+vat
big cam plug 7700106271 £6.87+vat
small cam plug 7700274026 £3.69+vat

total £309.70 inc vat retail

where di you get that mate, was that at renault?

 

[davebem]

Yeah, its best to get it all from renault. If you want to save a little, a motor factor can supply you with a Gates timing belt kit.

 

[caister]

I would personally use a specialist for this job. So many people don't and then we have threads a few months later with them saying there belt has snapped etc.

Also your in the motor trade yet you don't know the difference between an Aux and Cambelt??

 

[Tappits]

Also your in the motor trade yet you don't know the difference between an Aux and Cambelt??

thinks of the "whats the most stupedest thing your dealer has ever said" topic

as for you belts

some one said 7h to change it??? whos doing that spanner people in min wage you can do a full head swap and service in about 3h if you know what your doing.
as for the kit its self, get the the full kits as it will pay off in the long term.
dont go to renault to have it done fgs, at a specialist will be about £400 for the lot, dont bother paying loads if it blows up you can pick another one up for 500-600, you renault people need to catch up with the vaux/ford/jap lot interms of how mutch things cost, can do a full engion rebuild for about 1k yet renault have been known to charge £700+ for a cambelt kit fitted madness.

 

[Clio_Sport_Hull]

*QUOTE* Also your in the motor trade yet you don't know the difference between an Aux and Cambelt?? *QUOTE*


Tbh mate, im full time there, and i dont wanna know the place, im a trainee plumber and so i dont need to know about cars..


But some one said we sell Gates belts, yes we do, but we also do :

SKF TIMING BELT KITS

GATES XS BELTS

AND ALSO QTB BELTS

which on of those would you pick !? :clown:

 

[davebem]

The are all probably identical, just in different boxes. The tensioners/pulleys in the gates kit are identical to the renault ones.

 

[Clio_Sport_Hull]

well im probably be getting the skf, timing belt kit .....

 

[sideways danny]

thinks of the "whats the most stupedest thing your dealer has ever said" topic

as for you belts

some one said 7h to change it??? whos doing that spanner people in min wage you can do a full head swap and service in about 3h if you know what your doing.
as for the kit its self, get the the full kits as it will pay off in the long term.
dont go to renault to have it done fgs, at a specialist will be about £400 for the lot, dont bother paying loads if it blows up you can pick another one up for 500-600, you renault people need to catch up with the vaux/ford/jap lot interms of how mutch things cost, can do a full engion rebuild for about 1k yet renault have been known to charge £700+ for a cambelt kit fitted madness.

aaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha

OK so you have a point on the 7 hours for a cambelt (7.2hrs renault book time) 4-5 is about right though. I wont scare you with how quick I can do one if i really go for it

The rest of that statement is based on bodgery and little knowledge of the marque I'm afraid.

 

[sideways danny]

well im probably be getting the skf, timing belt kit .....

I'd go for the Gates kit. It's the most comprehensive

 

[ditz]

who the fcuk reckons they can change a cylinder head and service a car in 3 hours????

tell you what come and let me watch you do that and if you do it i'll sign my house over to you....

you'd struggle to do that on the simplist of the simple 8v pushrod engined ford ka!!!

 

[Tappits]

who the fcuk reckons they can change a cylinder head and service a car in 3 hours????

tell you what come and let me watch you do that and if you do it i'll sign my house over to you....

you'd struggle to do that on the simplist of the simple 8v pushrod engined ford ka!!!

you can do a full 20XE strip down and rebuild in a day its not my fault i am in to vauxhalls that are so easy to work on its untrue.

 

[Fred@BTM]

if you can CHANGE a head on a 172/182 in 3 hours then you're talking right out your bum flaps! you can remove the head in 3 hours, but change it and have it running again in 3 hours = no chance

 

[Tappits]

if you can CHANGE a head on a 172/182 in 3 hours then you're talking right out your bum flaps! you can remove the head in 3 hours, but change it and have it running again in 3 hours = no chance

why do you think it takes so long?

loom off 5, fuel line off 5, manifolds off 5, line up cambelt 3, cambelt off 5, inlet off 5, rocker cover off3, head off 5. then reverse

if you have done something a load of times over years and years you soon find the realy quick ways off doing things. + air tools which is 4tw

lol last winter i totaly striped my corsa from a running fully fitted car to a totaly bare shell in 7h (shame its takeing me 7months to get round to stich welding it )

if your as mad as some of us vaux lot are you can do things very quick. at TOTB last year we were doing speed box change overs between runs and all sorts.

 

[ditz]

you have blatently never touched a car before..

cleaning parts (something all half decent self respecting techs do) eats up time

gasket surfaces..

prepping head bolts

torquing a head down can take a good half hour on its own depending on how complicated the procedure is

squeezing/evacuating 16 hydraulic lifters??


sorry but you are talking b*llocks.

 

[Fred@BTM]

loom off 5, fuel line off 5, manifolds off 5, line up cambelt 3, cambelt off 5, inlet off 5, rocker cover off3, head off 5. then reverse

have you been near a 172 EVER?

rocker cover off in 3min? i would pay money to see that!

 

[Chrisjk]

He must be

tbh