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As per title, buying a 200 cup as a track car/daily driver. I was under the impression that they all have them as standard, is this correct?
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Do all Clio 200's have a electric diff?
- Thread starter jezcharger
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Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
Oh dear...
Clio T 314hp c43 AMG
The driver has aids? O dear
182cup & 172 racecar
Sorry but no.
182 FF
Right I'll go and ask people with a brain then
182cup & 172 racecar
Iv'e already said,no.Sorry about some of the answers you've had on here.
I need one....a brain that is as I can't stop buying stuff for the cup......but an electric diff to go with electric PAS...hmmmmm interesting.
Golf GTD Mk7
No need to spit the dummy mate. Diff isn't electric. If the 200 has a similar EBD/TC system to the 1*2 then braking can adjust stability, but that's about it. To be honest, on track I find it a hinderance and turn it off.
R26
FLOL! You got your answer then you throw the teddy out the pram!
This place is getting pretty entertaining lately.
Such as which car?
I cant think of a single car with an electronic diff (as opposed to just an electronic locking diff) that isnt an improvement over a gay open diff TBH!
The way you are saying 99% of mass manufacturer ones are rubbish makes it sound like they are common, but they still arent common at all.
Are you sure you arent confusing them with something totally different?
Its amazing the rate things move on at.
But the F430 one is a lot more than "ok" though by any standards if you are comparing it to an open diff!
Tom
ClioSport Club Member
EV (s)
Wow. No idea why people need to be arseholes about it, valid question.
If you don't know the answer, why post?
In a corner, these systems gently brake the inside front wheel to ensure optimal traction these brake-based systems are not technically a differential, they do work well in decreasing under-steer. I wouldn't be surprised if the next gen Renault Sport Clio/Megane got this type of system.
VAG's XDS System is good and so is Alfa's DNA.
You should not get these confused with mechanical limited slip differentials. (well I you knew how they worked you never would I guess)
If you don't know the answer, why post?
In a corner, these systems gently brake the inside front wheel to ensure optimal traction these brake-based systems are not technically a differential, they do work well in decreasing under-steer. I wouldn't be surprised if the next gen Renault Sport Clio/Megane got this type of system.
VAG's XDS System is good and so is Alfa's DNA.
You should not get these confused with mechanical limited slip differentials. (well I you knew how they worked you never would I guess)
I think people like volkswagen are partly to blame by calling an element of their traction control setup an "electronic differential" when in fact its nothing to do with the actual differential, they're trying to cash in on peoples positive opinion of setups (which are in the differential itsself) like the ferrari one by giving it the same name.
A bit like the "turbo" vacuum cleaners you might find in currys, lol
A bit like the "turbo" vacuum cleaners you might find in currys, lol
Tom
ClioSport Club Member
EV (s)
I think its down to the "effect" they produce being similar to what a mechanical diff can.
Some of the systems i've tested are actually probably nicer than cars (day to day) fitted with LSD's - If youve ever driven a MK1 FRS in anger you'll know what i mean, makes it uber twichy on certain surfaces. Obviously for track work and LSD is better, but this isnt a bad compromise.
Some of the systems i've tested are actually probably nicer than cars (day to day) fitted with LSD's - If youve ever driven a MK1 FRS in anger you'll know what i mean, makes it uber twichy on certain surfaces. Obviously for track work and LSD is better, but this isnt a bad compromise.
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Tom
ClioSport Club Member
EV (s)
What system?
The FRS feels like that because its a torque biasing diff, it would be less so if it had a plate type diff instead based on my experience of driving cars back to back with both types.
But then obviously it wouldnt be as nicely road mannered as it is with the ATB in it for things like parrellel parking.
No one perfect answer, but the ferrari ediff type system certainly gets pretty close to do everything at once.
182cup & 172 racecar
A plated diff on a road car would be a nightmare,every time you turn the steering wheel it would be clunking away and drive you mad.
Depends how much pressure you have on it, but yes I agree that the ATB type is far more road friendly, I always opt for those on road cars, and even on trackday cars I like ATB diffs too, its only really on loose surfaces that the plate type really has a massive advantage IMHO
RWD cars are not so bad with a plate though, my comments there are only about FWD.
182cup & 172 racecar
I nearly mentioned the pressure,but thought better of it.If you don't have enough then it becomes a waste of time anyway.
On my Escort rally car I had the diff set up so I could just about turn a circle on full lock without the outside wheel dragging.
But yes you are right,on gravel I would use a plated diff other than that ATB all the way.
That's what we have in the race car.
On my Escort rally car I had the diff set up so I could just about turn a circle on full lock without the outside wheel dragging.
But yes you are right,on gravel I would use a plated diff other than that ATB all the way.
That's what we have in the race car.
182cup & 172 racecar
