Doing A CamBelt Myself (Any Advice).

[clio 182 racer]

Hi guys, the time has come for my cam belt replacment on my 2005 182 cup with 33,000miles on it.
Thought i'd give it a go myself this Friday ahhh. I have all the locking tools, just wondering if anyone had any helpful advice about changing it.
Is it easier to take out the engine for room or leave engin in to save time???

Any advice will be helpful

Thanks Daryl

 

[Aluco]

I think the normal way to do it is remove o/s wing and front bumper but the general consensus is that it's easier if you take the engine out.

 

[clio 182 racer]

I might give it a go with the engine in, as will hopefully save myself some time.

 

[Aluco]

Don't fvck it up

 

[Jonff]

There's a guide on here just recently been posted up on how to do it but you need to be a full member to view it, might be worth paying the £10 subscription fee so you can see it?

 

[sideways danny]

I think the normal way to do it is remove o/s wing and front bumper but the general consensus is that it's easier if you take the engine out.

engine out??? you're having a laugh!!!

Bumper and slam panel off and there's a fair amount of access

 

[clio 182 racer]

There's a guide on here just recently been posted up on how to do it but you need to be a full member to view it, might be worth paying the £10 subscription fee so you can see it?

cool mite have to sign up n get that guide. Defo worth payin cheers m8.

 

[clio 182 racer]

engine out??? you're having a laugh!!!

Bumper and slam panel off and there's a fair amount of access

Sound good too me couldn't be arsd to take engine out anyways.
How long you reckon it'll take, as i've herd they r abit of a sh**y job?

 

[Tav]

Any one provide prices for the Renault locking tools? I'm going to do mine myself, sack paying near £700 or driving 800miles round trip for the pleasure. The guide that's been posted up really helps.

 

[Aluco]

Clio 182 racer

You have PM.

 

[clio 182 racer]

Any one provide prices for the Renault locking tools? I'm going to do mine myself, sack paying near £700 or driving 800miles round trip for the pleasure. The guide that's been posted up really helps.

I paid around £50 for mine, off MAC tools.

Same here aint payin no1 that amount of money to change a belt.

 

[clio 182 racer]

Clio 182 racer

You have PM.

Cheers m8

 

[clio 182 racer]

Thanks for the advice guys, ill let you all no if it goes bang HAHA.

 

[sideways danny]

I paid around £50 for mine, off MAC tools.

Same here aint payin no1 that amount of money to change a belt.

anything but genuine renault locking tools is a waste of time money and metal.

Only renault sell the pulley locking tools

All in it's around £140 (you dont need the renault crank pin at £36, a lazer one will do at £10)

If you dont use genuine tools, the timing WILL be out

 

[clio 182 racer]

Are you serious, a m8 done it wiv the same kit n car was fine!!

 

[Martin_172]

na i was going to attempt it with non genuine tools but gave it a miss as they were crap. you wont get the timing right with non genuine tools

 

[sideways danny]

totally serious. All the non genuine cam alignment bars bend, and you shouldn't tighten against those anyway. As soon as you torque the pulleys they move unless you have the pulley locking tool

 

[Fred@BTM]

for once i actually agree with danny (which is rare )

100% use the renault tools only, if you don't you may aswell put 6 bullets in the gun and then go play russian roulette

 

[Whiteley]

Fred/Danny, any chance of part numbers for crank pulley tools, both ends please?

 

[Fred@BTM]

cam you mean? crank tool is a pin

i'll get the MOT numbers off my tools tomorrow

 

[Aluco]

engine out??? you're having a laugh!!!

Bumper and slam panel off and there's a fair amount of access

Just going off what I thought I'd heard, I have never even gone near a cambelt on a 1.2 let alone a 2.0 :dapprove:

 

[Fred@BTM]

infact crank pin is 0000105400
then i think the cam pulley tool is 7711381801 (plus you need the extra gear cog thing, don't have the number to hand)
then the cam tool (box end) i don't have the number to hand either

this lot

 

[f0xy]

tool part numbers are in the renault 172 pdf thats all over this site too

 

[Tav]

anything but genuine renault locking tools is a waste of time money and metal.

Only renault sell the pulley locking tools

All in it's around £140 (you dont need the renault crank pin at £36, a lazer one will do at £10)

If you dont use genuine tools, the timing WILL be out

£140 sounds fine. Going to the complete lot inc. dephaser as well for piece of mind. Bit of help from some good mechanics and it'll be fine...I hope.

 

[sideways danny]

tool part numbers are in the renault 172 pdf thats all over this site too

I've bought all new ones in the last month, they've changed a load of the MOT numbers, took bloody ages trawling through all the listings on the computer and cross referencing

 

[f0xy]

ahhhh good ole renault :boring:

 

[clio 182 racer]

I might go wiv the renault tool then. Wonder how quick i can get hold of them!!

 

[Whiteley]

OOps meant cam not crank, it was late. Cheers Fred.

Do you have the upto date numbers handy at all then Danny?

 

[bmh.01]

Whats the actual idea behind slacking the cam pulleys off? Still haven't worked that one out yet and the renault manual gives a method where you don't slacken the pulleys off too?? Can only think its to normalise the tension between the belt in between pulleys but can't see how thats a problem unless timing a lump from scratch.

 

[Pete@Auto-Nation]

I hate to shamelessly plug my business.............but I can get the Renault tools, and any Renault parts you need. Prices are considerably less than Renault retail. I can also do the Gates Powergrip cambelt kits (Gates make the Renault ones).

Just send me a PM if interested.

Pete
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[Fred@BTM]

quote us happy you vulture!

bmh - its what r-sport, oreca, moteur huger, etc etc do, my man who was the r-sport man (looked after all uk r-sport engines) did the same

and you're right, it normalises the tension, if you don't do it you can knock the timing out

 

[bmh.01]

Ah I see, have always done it just wondered why really didn't really see the point but just followed the manual.

 

[sideways danny]

it sets the cam position in relation to the piston travel, rather than setting the pulley position. Removes margin for error with differences in block and head height/thickness. It's just basically more accurate

 

[f0xy]

For reference...

TDC/Crank Pin - 0000105400 - £8.98
Extra Longer Cog + Spacers + Nut - 0000150901 - £16.56
Camshaft Locking Tool - 0000149600 - £40.50
Pulley Locking Tool - 7711381801 - £40.50

 

[Hutchie]

i find the hardest bit is putting the aux belt back on, what a tw@t the tensioner is, i made my own tool for this. but not willing to release design

 

[f0xy]

AUX setup dosent bother me, i only have waterpump and alternator running on Mk1 1.2 brackets :rasp:

 

[Missing Link]

Intresting thread...I've got 2 to do.

Maybe we should start a tool club ?

You'd save money by doing it yourself, But not the sort of tools you'd use every day.

 

[Fred@BTM]

blimey they've come down in price!

 

[sideways danny]

you sure that's the right TDC pin? I got quoted £26 +vat, so i got a lazer one off ebay for £8

 

[f0xy]

Yup defo the right one, same as the one I lent off fred a while back...

Picked them up today, used it on my engine earlier, worked spot on