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eBay "quality" xenon bulbs



  S13
H1 H4 etc are the fitment. IIRC your model is H4. 10000k 8000k etc etc refers to light intensity/colour/brightness I think.
 
  RenaultSport clio 172 mk2
Forgive me if i am being stupid.

Seen these on eBay,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/XENON-HEADLIG...1QQihZ002QQcategoryZ72235QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I thought u needed a HID kit to run Xenon bulbs?
If i just fit these will i just melt my wires?

I have a Clio Extreme, 55 plate.

Also, could someone please define the scale for me, H1? H4? H7? which is brighter etc???:rasp:

There is a problem in using the term "xenon bulbs" because that term can refer to two completely different types of bulbs. It confuses people. It tricks people.

There are "quartz halogen" bulbs where the light is produced by running electricity through a tungsten filament in an atmosphere consisting of a non-reactive halogen gas inside a quartz envelope. That halogen gas can be xenon. Quartz halogen bulbs can run the filament at higher temperatures, and so produce more light per watt and whiter light than the older style "tungsten filament" bulbs that are in your tail and brake lights and turn indicators.

And there are "high intensity discharge" (HID) bulbs where the light is produced by a high voltage discharge (spark) in xenon gas. HID bulbs are even more efficient, and because they don't have a filament to burn out and break, just an electrode to erode, they last a lot longer. But they cost a lot more because of their construction, and the need for a high voltage source, called a "ballast".

Those bulbs being advertised on eBay are NOT HID bulbs. They are quartz halogen bulbs.

And H1, H2, H3, H4, H7, etc, don't indicate the power output, they indicate a fitting type that they plug into. H4 for example means a dual filament globe - one for high beam, one for low beam - wereas H7 is a single filament globe for cars with separate high and low beam reflectors. You have to get the H-type for the headlights in your car. Clios have headlights with a H7 fitting.

The standard quartz halogen bulb is 55 watt these days. There are some higher output ones, but they are mostly illegal for road use and they often have a shorter life. They also can cause problems with wiring. In my last car (a Nissan) I fitted 130/90 watt (130 watt high beam, 90 watt low beam) H4s AFTER I checked that the wiring would take it and the fuses wouldn't blow and that the extra heat wouldn't damage the socket the globe plugged into or the headlight reflector. They were great, except for the glare back off large reflective signs.

Real HID globes only use about 30-35 watts - less than a quartz halogen globe - and they put out more light - about as much as a 100 watt quartz halogen globe would. And they last a lot longer. But they cost a fortune.
 
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  Rsport182Cup'd
if you want to get some brighter bulbs get your self to wilco motorsave or any other car shop and get some rally bulbs, not too dear, yes they are illegal for road use due to brightness but a cop is not really going to take your bulbs out on road and say these are too bright, normal quartz halogens in cars for dipped beam are normally 55w, the ones i had in old clio were 75w, they were noticable brighter worked fine and available in most fitments.
 
  RenaultSport clio 172 mk2
A correction to my earlier post. I misspoke. HID globes put out more light than a quartz halogen of the same wattage. A 30-35 watt HID wouldn't produce as much light as a 100 watt quartz halogen. The advantage of HIDs is that they are near point-source of light, so they can be focussed more precisely by projector-type headlights, so they cut glare.
 
  RenaultSport clio 172 mk2
if you want to get some brighter bulbs get your self to wilco motorsave or any other car shop and get some rally bulbs, not too dear, yes they are illegal for road use due to brightness but a cop is not really going to take your bulbs out on road and say these are too bright, normal quartz halogens in cars for dipped beam are normally 55w, the ones i had in old clio were 75w, they were noticable brighter worked fine and available in most fitments.

The problem with high power quartz halogen bulbs is that they put out lots more light, including more glare. That is oncoming drivers can think you haven't dipped to low beams. Including cops, who might book you for it. You can hardly say "honestly officer, I was dipped, its that I'm running illegal headlight globes".

That's the problem that projector-style headlights (with HID bulbs) were designed to solve. Less glare. The light all goes where its supposed to go when you're on low beam, down onto the road, not into the eyes of oncoming drivers. The problerm then is trying to read street signs, and warning signs and speed signs that are above the cutoff when there's no leakage of light above it.
 
  Polo + Micra
lol gordonD you was right

a HID lamp would produce as much light as a 100w quartz halogen lamp as HID's are more effiecent(sp)
 
  Rsport182Cup'd
If not dont, but youre the one drivin you will be able to see fine, run them before i got xenon's on new car for three year and then on prev car, no issues at all.

- no bitchin you asked i told you a view on the matter i gave one, lets not get in to the usual old crap of somebody to disagree so launch a full blown moan or start rantin full of tech wizzardry with nothin possetive to say
 
  Rsport182Cup'd
and th scammers on ebay know what they are doing all in all, if a xenon for the HID lamps is in region of £70 from motorfactors and region of £140 from dealers they are never going to be the same, thats why a xenon upgrade on a new car ordered is about £600 depending on car and model, there good but if they were not standard on the sport i would not have paid that extra money for them.

solve all problems get a bonnet pod with some cibbie oscars on it.
 
Hey there are kits on ebay for around £150 pounds ive heard lots of storys from people saying they are crap ectect but mine work fine and have done for the last 6 months the only problem is to make sure you get the kit that has high and low beam as i ended up buying the ones with just low beam (which do me fine and i do a lot of night driving!) ALL the bulb kits on ebay are just gimmicks if you ask me.
If you want proper hid lights buy the kit!
 


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