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Esp !!!
- Thread starter DH_GTI
- Start date
R26
Glad you are having fun! Mine never came with ESP (172) so I get to have fun like that everyday!
I've always found ESP takes a slight edge off the dynamics. Even when the light isn't flashing. With ESP off I've found I have more power coming out of corners. I've also found lift off oversteer far more fun without the ESPs Intrsuive efforts to stop it.
Basically I have always felt the car is purer and faster with ESP off. I'm convinced it does things long before the 'light' starts blinking. I almost always turn it off every time I turn the key. Exceptions are when it's wet/greasy and/or I have no intentions of pushing hard.
Basically I have always felt the car is purer and faster with ESP off. I'm convinced it does things long before the 'light' starts blinking. I almost always turn it off every time I turn the key. Exceptions are when it's wet/greasy and/or I have no intentions of pushing hard.
liquidized RacingBlue 182
turning it of does that mean the light is on in the dash or wen the light is out on the dash? lol for my stupid question lol
liquidized RacingBlue 182
ooooooooops!!! hahah i turn mine of all at the wrong times lol i thought by pushing the botton and haveing the icon lit on the dash it was on LOLOLOLOLOLOL DOH!!! haha
liquidized RacingBlue 182
lol, i think the car drives better wen i turn it of then lol.... i use it in the wet hahah
80MPG BEEZA
i saw them testing the esp on tv cant remember what program, they made a guy go through this wave of cones at a certain speed the sudden left to right to left made the car skid out, they then did the same speed again with the esp on it skidded a little but managed to control it.
my car goes a little crazy when braking hard and turning ohhh the cars lifting wooooaahhh
my car goes a little crazy when braking hard and turning ohhh the cars lifting wooooaahhh
An example of how ESP can be bad;
A few months back I had access to a huge carpark where I started dabbling in provoked lift off over steer. I was able to get some decent angles before the ESP quite voilently kicked in and almost snapped control out of hands. In some ways it seemed to unsettle the car, although that was probably just my interpretation - it certainly stopped the slide. Doing the same with ESP off was far more fun and I never came close to spinning the car. That's not to say I woudn't have, in a genuine non-provoked accident invoking situation though!
To clarify some of the above - yes, ESP is OFF when the warning triangle is illuminated. I often think it's mostly placebo, but other times I'm convinced it makes the car faster, most importantly coming out of tight corners where the steering angle seems to have some electronic hold over the power available. Probably only a programmer involved in the ESP software could confirm if this is true.
A few months back I had access to a huge carpark where I started dabbling in provoked lift off over steer. I was able to get some decent angles before the ESP quite voilently kicked in and almost snapped control out of hands. In some ways it seemed to unsettle the car, although that was probably just my interpretation - it certainly stopped the slide. Doing the same with ESP off was far more fun and I never came close to spinning the car. That's not to say I woudn't have, in a genuine non-provoked accident invoking situation though!
To clarify some of the above - yes, ESP is OFF when the warning triangle is illuminated. I often think it's mostly placebo, but other times I'm convinced it makes the car faster, most importantly coming out of tight corners where the steering angle seems to have some electronic hold over the power available. Probably only a programmer involved in the ESP software could confirm if this is true.
liquidized RacingBlue 182
thanks roy, will be turning the esp more often then so much more fun with out and i thought it was turning on hahah and been safer aww well lots to learn
Golf GTI PP Mk7
the chap at renault told me that u cant fully disengage it on the 182 too tho. Apparently u can turn it off but if the car rekons ur gonna kiss an oak tree it'll automatically cut back in. He was saying how on the 197 when u turn it off, its off for good.
That must be why the 172 cups are the fastest
That must be why the 172 cups are the fastest
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
lewisniven said:the chap at renault told me that u cant fully disengage it on the 182 too tho. Apparently u can turn it off but if the car rekons ur gonna kiss an oak tree it'll automatically cut back in. He was saying how on the 197 when u turn it off, its off for good.
That must be why the 172 cups are the fastest
That chap at renault you were talking to was talking out of his arse. It fully disengages on a 182.
Golf GTI PP Mk7
lol, was obviously just trying to sell me a 197, it sounded a bit rough at the time but i was eager to get behind the wheel, lol.
