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Fark........! HEATER FAN - or the lack of



  2003 Clio 172
No heater fans blowing this morning FFS

No matter what I do to the CC unit, max, hot, cold, whatever....

Usual resistor thingy?

Anyone got a rought costage on that?

Any ghetto tests to be sure its not something else? Can i join any pins on the resistor plug etc to trigger the fans to check the motor/fuse etc?

A
 
  E85 3.0i
I think you need to short pins 1 + 5 on the plug to see if it's the resistor, there's a few threads about it. Resistor Pack £130ish from Renault I think.

Mine was the blower motor itself mind...
 

Christopher

ClioSport Club Member
  Z4M
Check the relay under the bonnet first. Same symptoms as the resistor but a lot cheaper if it's that.
 

benkay

ClioSport Club Member
  V6 Ph2 + Audi S3(8V)
Or fix the resistor yourself if you can solder. £5.50 from Maplin.
 
  2003 Clio 172
Or fix the resistor yourself if you can solder. £5.50 from Maplin.

Guide me up on that one lad.....what exact components do we need?

I did pull it apart once......looked at it, then put it together again and back in the car. LOL.
 

benkay

ClioSport Club Member
  V6 Ph2 + Audi S3(8V)
I put a full guide up on v6clio.net but don't think you'll be able to access that as a non paying member.

I'll try and get something written up on here over the weekend.
 
  2003 Clio 172
Would very much appreciate it bud, even a cut in paste in the meantime to get me going....

Its starting to get toasty here....YES, I KNOW....NORTHERN IRELAND

:D

J
 

benkay

ClioSport Club Member
  V6 Ph2 + Audi S3(8V)
Here you go mate....photos missing unfortunately and don't have access to them for a while as away from laptop.

Guys,

I finally got around to doing this.

Symptoms
Climate control computer is ON and temperature and blower control appears to work, but no air is blown from the vents.

The Fix
The blowers use a resistor pack to regulate the speed of the air blown through the vents. A MOSFET transistor is used in order to do this and it is this component which fails.

A new resistor pack is around £120.00 from Renault, this fix will cost you about £5 and a bit of time.

The Tools For The Job

- Large flat head screwdriver
- Thin bladed knife (maybe)
- M6 hex driver (straight and ratchet with UJ)
- Soldering iron
- Solder Sucker or Gauze
- Solder
- New MOSFET HUF75337P3 (Maplin part number UE47B, LINK)

Guide

1. Pop the bonnet. You will see under the windscreen some scuttle panels, the resistor pack is under the O/S (driver's side if RHD) scuttle panel. First thing to do is pull off the rubber seal as shown above. You only need to pull off until about the mid point of the car....
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2. The scuttle panel is held on at 2 points and by 2 different methods. First to tackle is the circled screw rivet.
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3. Use a fat flat head screwdriver, coin or in my case another key to turn the central part of the rivet anti-clockwise about a quarter turn. The central part of the rivet should raise up slightly as a result, now pull the central part up. This releases pressure on the outer part and hence the entire rivet can be pulled out (a bit of force may be required).
If the whole rivet spins when turning the inner part, use a thin knife to raise up the inner part.
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4. The end of the panel nearest to the centre-line of the car is held on with two clips. Push these clips backwards and then lift the panel upwards and forwards.
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Ta-daaa
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5. Now the panel is loose, pull the whole lot upwards over the metal lip of the scuttle and towards you. You may also need to pull the panel away from the edge of the boot opening to allow for this little rubber locating piece to pull out. Don't forget that this piece needs to locate back into its hole when replacing either!!
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6. Now you can see the resistor pack clearly, circled below
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7. First, remove the wired plug from the pack. Push the two marked tabs inwards and then pull the plug off.
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Like so...
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8. The pack is held in place by 2 M6 hex-head bolts/screws. One on each side. The left-most one can be removed with a normal driver, the one on the right needs a small ratchet with a U/J linkage. A small ratchet spanner may also work.
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9. Once both fixings are removed, pull the pack out (upwards and tilt slightly forwards to clear bottom of windscreen).
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10. So here it is removed. There are 6 tabs which need to be overcome to open the unit. Fairly easy to work out how, thin knife or something works.
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11. Remove the back part of the case first. It may need a bit of persuasion as the insides are full of silicone.
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12. Now remove the front cover. Be careful to pull the cover of straight or the pins could be snapped/bent.
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13. You'll be left with this....
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14. This is the bad boy in question....
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15. Lift the tabs of the metal retainer up and over the lip in the aluminium and push the retainer forwards to relieve some pressure off the MOSFET, ***NOT TOO MUCH AS THERE ARE COMPONENTS HIDDEN UNDER THE SILICONE***.

Now bend the MOSFET forward slightly away from the heat-sink, and put a thin piece of wood/rubber down the gap between MOSFET and heatsink. This helps prevent the heatsink from sucking all the heat out of the solder/soldering iron!!
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16. Now turn upside down and pull off the silicone as best you can from the area. This shows the position of the 3 legs of the resistor. Use a hot iron and a solder sucker/gauze to remove the existing solder. Pull out the old MOSFET and solder in the new one.
***Note the new resistor is a different size, so you will need to splay out the legs slightly to fit***
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17. Now replace the metal cage and re-assemble the housing of the pack. Up to you whether you refill with silicone or not, I didn't bother.....

This photo show the difference between the old and new MOSFETs.
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Assembly back into the car is obviously the reverse of the steps above.

You should now have blissful hot and cold air working again!!

Hope that helps and good luck if you give it a shot!!
 
  2003 Clio 172
Legendary mucker......

Was having problems getting the part you mention so I bought a HUF75344G3.

Hopefully it will suffice.

Incidentally, it started working again today.

Is the problem usually intermittent?

A
 
  2003 Clio 172
Still working today......

I mean wtf?

Is the problem dry solders or something or does the component fail itself?

I dot understand the intermittency of this.

A
 
  2003 Clio 172
p.s. Ben.

Get the images in that bad boy and wing it in the guides section, thats a goodun.

J
 

benkay

ClioSport Club Member
  V6 Ph2 + Audi S3(8V)
Hey Jinjur,

Mine was out for the count, no way it was going to work again. I think the MOSFET was fried in mine, but I guess it could be dry solder. Shame the one in my link is no longer available, would be interesting to know if the one you got works also so I can update the guide.

Will try and get photos sorted soon, just no time at the mo!

Ben
 
  3 Series xdrive
Mine worked intermittently for a few months then finally gave up the ghost, fitted new resistor and that fixed it.
 
  2003 Clio 172
Good news....

Thanks for that Daz......so there may be a bit of intermittency involved then.

J
 

benkay

ClioSport Club Member
  V6 Ph2 + Audi S3(8V)
Lazy Friday evening so finally got around to it...uploaded the photos and have submitted it to the guides section.

Ben
 
  clio
hi fixed ma resistor pack it works now but when the climate control is switched off the fan seems to stay on low
 


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