Renault kindly lent us one as a demo at work, the boss let me take it for a spin, did 12 miles so not far! Have to say i wasnt dissapointed, after reading some of the threads i was expecting it to be bad! went really well, had to work it quite hard for it though! As for comparing it to a 172/182 i dont think its fair! totally different vehicle, but value for money it seems ok, and the brakes are very good! renault havent lost there touch! Fair play to any owners! Enjoy!