Fitting harnesses

[ForceIndia]

Any guides? Got some 3 point one's to fit, no idea where to start.

 

[Greeny.]

Use the OE rear seat belt bolts for the rear one, the OE mount nearest the door depending what side your fitting and the subframe for the other side.

 

[Keith185]

You could also use the iso-fix mounting point for the rear if you take the bar out.

 

[Henry]

only weirdness going on is the outer lap belt securing point (underneath the seatbelt rail), which is M10, not the usual 7/16UNF

i got an eyebolt from SouthWestMotorsport, but anywhere that deals with Graystons should be able to order them in?

 

[ForceIndia]

Is it possible to keep the standard inertia belt with the harnesses.

 

[Greeny.]

You could also use the iso-fix mounting point for the rear if you take the bar out.

Thats miles away? Whats wrong the the rear seatbelt mounts?

 

[DanFreemanPhoto]

Ive got 4 points in my 182. The rears are bolted where the rear seatbelt mounts where (I think, or it may be the isofix bar!)

Those were the easy parts, the harder bit was bolting the lap straps. The straps nearer the centre of the car went thorugh where the seat used to mount (holes near the handbrake). For the ones near the doors, I had to drill holes through the floor and use a spreader plate to fix them.

Oh, I also used spreader plates for the other lap straps mounts too.

 

[Henry]

Is it possible to keep the standard inertia belt with the harnesses.

you can but it wouldn't really be safe, as you'd need eyebolts with threaded lengths similar to the Renault bolts. you can get various length 7/16 bolts, but the only M10 i've been able to find is 23mm thread length, which isn't long enough to retain the seatbelt rail

i think someone on here found a M10 bolt with a loop on the end of it that could be used with harness latches - something like that might be useable if its thread were long enough

 

[Greeny.]

For the ones near the doors, I had to drill holes through the floor and use a spreader plate to fix them.

wtf? why didnt you just use the huge original bolt? thats near the door? This is what im gunna use.

 

[DanFreemanPhoto]

^Not sure which one you mean

 

[ForceIndia]

Hmmm. Seems like a ballache to retain the original belts. Don't think I'll bother fitting them.

 

[DanFreemanPhoto]

There's no reason why you cant keep the original belts. I could have done in mine, but the Futura seats are pretty deep and imo wouldnt have worked very well with normal belts.
And the standard belts are pretty heavy!

 

[ForceIndia]

Suppose every gram counts in a fatboy 182

 

[DanFreemanPhoto]

lol cheeky!
Those pro race 1.2s will help a lot too!

 

[Henry]

Hmmm. Seems like a ballache to retain the original belts. Don't think I'll bother fitting them.

tbh, they're pretty impractical/uncomfortable on the road - but extremely useful on track. if you track, just get the necessary eyebolts (2 x 7/16, 32mm thread; 1 x M10, 23mm thread) and do away with the seatbelt rail when they're on. you can leave the pretensioner/buckle on, and clip the (loose) belt into the buckle behind the seat to get rid of the seatbelt warning beeps. messy, but practical

 

[maynard]

is that M10 23mm threaded bolt for the one on the outer pillar where the seat belt rail sits?

 

[Henry]

yep

bought mine from here; i think someone else linked this a while ago: http://www.southwestmotorsport.com/...age=product_info&cPath=10_312&products_id=791
(fourth one down)

 

[maynard]

and that just screws into the hole where black thin seat belt rail goes into the panel?

 

[Jonny1*2]

can you not just put the rear attachment onto the hole under the back seats, and attach 2 eye bolts under the seat towards the rear (if you want to hide them), or just attach them into the subframes on both sides.

 

[Henry]

the M10 replaces the bolt that secures the seatbelt rail, in the sill. the thread on the bolt in that link isn't long enough to retain the rail, so you'd have to remove it

you could use the tappings in the seatframe (one of the standard anchorage points is there, afterall), but it's not ideal, incase the seatframe brakes during an accident

the 'ideal' solution is to weld a nut/plate into the shell alongside the inside of the seat, but then it's starting to get a bit more involved

 

[Jonny1*2]

True, but with the eye bolt plates you can at least remove the hooks when you've finished and cover them up (replace carpet etc). Not hard to weld on really.

 

[Greeny.]

yep

bought mine from here; i think someone else linked this a while ago: http://www.southwestmotorsport.com/...age=product_info&cPath=10_312&products_id=791
(fourth one down)

I love you, had a mare trying to find these